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Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from (Recent Donor)Luna
Oh WOW. Just stumbled across this. Very moving and very good. Thank you for writing and posting.
Review By [(Recent Donor)Luna] • Date [13 Feb 11] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from (Past Donor)chrysanne
Is it entirely too jaded of me that I can believe the Powers would do this? What gets me most about LoV is the gut-wrenching sense of futility. What are the Scoobies and the Fang Gang fighting for when the ones they protect go and blow each other up? This was extremely well-written, and I'm glad I've read it.
Review By [(Past Donor)chrysanne] • Date [28 Mar 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from Nomma
Bloody well done.
Review By [Nomma] • Date [3 Feb 09] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from AbscondingCascade
Note:- I would have added this to my previous review but TTH is playing up on me so sorry.

Excuse me EricJablow but where did StephanieClare, autumnsoul and me say anything about 9/11 being a hoax because I don't think we did? and by the comment made by made me saying "I will not be responsible for my actions" meant that if you write another fic like this what i do will not be entirely sane, rational, nice and may break multiple International and national laws. Instead of writing a fanfiction you could of held a minutes silence which won't possibly hurt people like this fic has the potential to do. though what you said about Arekanderu review I agree with as Arekanderu review sends shivers down my spine. now you may not have taken my review seriously due the way I composed it so to say what I said in a more rational and polite way - You are sick and twisted in a way which is quite frankly behond comprehension and shouldn't write fics like this as it has the potential to hurt people and if you do write a fanfiction like this again my response will be not polite and quite possibly unlawful due to the fact that it will push me over the edge and what i do will later be looked as insane .

your's sincerely lifeisaparadox

(note: EricJablow/anyone else reading this review if you think I sound crazy I'm okay with that, I'm content with my insanity)

(edit made Monday 17th September 2007)

I would like to apologize for my previous review and the time I attempted to explain it as my reviews of Lack of Vision haven't been the most sane quite frankly so I apologize.
Now I'm going to explain exactly why I feel so strongly about this fanfiction and would like to apologize for anything that may be taken as rude, impolite, offensive ectra preemptively so that any offense taken is known not to be on purpose as I am usually polite (which some people may find amazing but is the actual truth). You see the story reminded me of the 7/7 London bombings and as my cousin Gary lives in London the couple of hours afterwards without knowing what happened to him were extremely worrying for My family and I. Luckily he wasn't hurt but those few hours were torture so I apologize that after reading Lack of Vision that I didn't react calmly to it in my reviews which I apologize for as the story made me angry especially as the title of the story 'lack of vision' reminded me of the hours after of not knowing, of LACKING any knowledge of what had happened so I reacted in a way I probably shouldn't have and wrote a review which was a flame and not actually a proper review due to the fact that it reminded me of one of the worst moments of my life which is why I despise this story in all of its good grammar, spelling Ect as It's wrong to write about a tragedy in living memory for while you might think that people will be ready for it they won't, hell if I saw this story like this when I'm old and Grey I'd still react like I did so can you next time please think before you write next time because if you don't you'll hurt someone and provoke them into writing a review that's quite frankly nuts and makes my mum's lovable if exceptional annoying dog look calm and relaxed, Hopefully this edit will find you all well.
Yours Somberly (and hopefully politely) Lifeisaparadox
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And might I just say, good God, man/woman/hermaphrodite/asexual being, get a life. Considering that comes from the mentally ill moderator who sits on his couch all day and collects a SS check, that... when I tell people to get a life, you know it's bad.
Review By [AbscondingCascade] • Date [17 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from (Moderator)Ava
I thought this was tastefully done and nicely written. I personally remember crying when I watched the first tower collapse and believe, especially after she gained the visions, that Cordelia has enough empathy for those that died to cry as well. All and all this was definitely above par grammar wise and I will be Rec'ing it.

Thank you for sharing.
Review By [(Moderator)Ava] • Date [14 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from greylight
This helped me to remember the pain of that day. Thank you. Sometimes its so hard to forget how horrible that day really was, and we do need to be reminded.

I do take issue with the line "we will not forgive" but I've already told you why in regards to that.

As to the other reviewers: just got to say this. Re-read what the writer wrote

1) He(?) said that there are SOME people who claim 9/11 to be a hoax. He never said that any of his reviewers claim that. Its obvious that you are only reading what you want to read and are interpreting this the way you want to.
2) For the reviewers who are vehement against this least one of you made me think that maybe you may have lost someone to a terrorist attack or to the war. I'm so sorry if that was the case.
3) Not all writing is entertainment. For crying out many books are out there right now that are either biographies of 9/11 victims or use 9/11 as a backdrop. I can think of several off the top of my head.
Review By [greylight] • Date [14 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from Magewind
I thought this was an interesting story. I've always wondered how different people respond to tragic events, and this was a (in my opinion) good characterization of Cordelia's response.

Her questioning her purpose, the PTB's intentions, it all seems like a valid response for her to have.

Don't worry about what people think of it too much. Even after six years people have varying responses and means of coping with the tragic and monumentally life altering events of 9/11. It'll be a long while before people will be more open to the many varied ways of expression, rather than just the traditional, as being appropriate.

P.S. I liked your story.
Review By [Magewind] • Date [12 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from amusewithaview
That was an awful day. I was in school and most of what I remember was how scary it was not knowing what was going on, or who had done it, or how many had died... This (in my opinion) is a good fic, thank you.
Comments from author:
Thank you.

It was worse for me, but not as bad as for many others. My mother (of blessed memory) worked at the World Financial Center, across the street from the WTC. She had gotten off the PATH train at the WTC 20 minutes before the first plane hit, and she was evacuated on the last ferry to Hoboken. She saw the towers fall from the middle of the Hudson River.

I deny that the story was disrespectful to the dead or the survivors. All I did was to put these fictional characters we all write about into a situation that actually occurred, and had them react as I thought they might react. The reviewer who claimed that Cordelia should have cried only if a relative were involved shows an attitude that I hoped never to see again. I once was a dedicated member of the Washington [DC] Science Fiction Association. One of the reasons I left was the member who told me she felt nothing for the dead of the WTC _because she knew none of them personally_.

Look--I remember listening to Terry Gross interviewing Joss Whedon on an episode of Fresh Air; Joss said that many of the High School stories were about the typical fears of growing up written as supernatural stories. "Innocence" and "Surprise" were about women's fears of being betrayed by a first boyfriend, especially over sex. He was quite shocked when many women told him, "That's exactly how my first boyfriend acted toward me."

Now, what happens when we see an evil far worse than that of the fictional vampire? Are we not supposed to discuss it? Are we to deny it happened? Some of the reviewers think so. The one who threatened me if I write about it or a similar subject said, "I will not be responsible for my actions." Guess what--we all are responsible for our actions.

Ah, but people want to forget about 9/11/01. Some people claim that it was a US hoax; others claim that the US deserved it. Some people even claim both. The BBC chose last night to show the movie Fahrenheit 9/11! Our culture minimizes the true events of that day, presents US soldiers, marines, and airmen (like my brother) as evil, and presents government officials as corrupt men inflicting misery and violence to stay in power. It stops at nothing, even forging news stories, to try to provoke a surrender.

For the people who hated the "We shall not forgive" line, tell me. Do you see any vindictiveness in the actions of our troops? I see our soldiers fighting those who would murder, maim, and enslave, while doing their best to rebuild and bring succor to an abused people. Remember: the same soldiers who fought their way across Europe in 1944 and 1945 did their best to feed their former enemies in 1946, 1947, and 1948. Does the name Gail Halvorsen ring a bell? Do look it up.

On this day of remembrance, let us look truly at the events of six years ago, and let us remember that these amusing stories of vampires and demons present fictional evils far simpler and less meaningful than the evils men committed that day. And to those complaining that they were not entertained by my story, please think. Are we meant to be entertained by everything we read?
Review By [amusewithaview] • Date [11 Sep 07] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from (Past Donor)Kiwikatipo
My review that takes into account other people's reviews.

The story, I thought you were wanting to commemorate the events of the eleventh of September, 2001. This is not unprecedented, I've seen stories on this site that have commemorated World AIDS day and the Armistice Signing of the First World War.

I thought it was tasteful -the story.

Would Cordelia cry? I knew people in New Zealand and Australia who cried that day and didn't personally know anyone in the attacks. It was a horrible thing to have happened to other human beings.

The only thing that spoiled your story for me was the 'we will never forget, we'll never forgive' tag at the end.

I take it Japanese and German people should still be punished for the war crimes their grandparents committed according to your logic?
Review By [(Past Donor)Kiwikatipo] • Date [11 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from Phidan
I like the story, I think it is a very suitable memorial to a tragic event which affected many of us in profound ways. However, I am mostly reviewing to comment on the reviewers, because _I_ find it offensive that people choose to condemn a writer for using his writing talent to express his feelings about such an event. Are they going to hunt down every other fanwriter on this and other sites who has written about a character's reactions to 9-11? Do they write angry letters to tv show writers who make reference to that event? For that matter, do they protest the existence of movies about the World Wars and Vietnam? (Did they send protests to the writers of "Angel" for telling a tale about Angel aboard a submarine during a war?)

I think your protesters totally miss the point here; just because the medium is "entertainment", that does not exclude the potential to use that medium for a deeper purpose! So, I thank you for posting this story today; I appreciated the sentiment as you intended it to be appreciated, and the acknowledgment that these characters would have to have been witnesses to those events just as we were. Tragic events are part of our world, and should not be ignored in fiction any more than in real life.
Review By [Phidan] • Date [11 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from autumnsoul
To be quite honest, this sickened me.

The idea of turning a senseless tragedy into entertainment...because stephanie clare pointed out...fanfiction IS is SICK.

Did innocent people die so you could make a mockery of the situation?

Don't get me wrong. This isn's a flame. I quite enjoy your writing style.

But maybe pick a more appropriate topic next time?

Mixing fiction and reality is one thing...but to bring a disaster that affected the world the way it did into it is a whole new world of innapropriate.

And what do you mean by "we shall not forget, we cannot forgive"

Who is it that you are talking about when you say "we cannot forgive"

Really. I'm curious.

Because to me, that looks like a hate message.

If I'm wrong, please correct me, but that's how I, and other people have interpreted it.

My point is...please stick to writing stories wihtout such sensitive subjects. if you had been writing a longer story, and had included the events of 9/11 in a chapter...maybe it would be different.

But you clearly wrte this story only to ENTERTAIN people, with your version of fictional characters'responses, which is innapropriate, sick, and I would seriously consider taking this down so you don't offend more people.
Review By [autumnsoul] • Date [11 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from BlueEyedJedi
I'm just glad someone remembers. From what I have seen lately, most of everyone else seem to have forgotten, or even acknowledge that. Innocents died, we should honor that & them, they deserve that at least. Thank You for this story, it made today easier, I lost someone that day, Thank You.
Review By [BlueEyedJedi] • Date [11 Sep 07] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from AbscondingCascade
I Agree with StephanieClare you can't write a fan fiction about this, it's like desecrating someones grave. You are sick and wrong and If I catch you write a fan fiction about any other terrorist attack like 7 July 2005 London bombings or a natural disaster Et cetera I will not be held accountable for my actions towards you, Do You Understand Mr I have no feelings for innocent people affected by horrific events and don't care about the Impact my fan fiction will have on them?
Review By [AbscondingCascade] • Date [11 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from StephanieClare
While you writing technique and style are fine i myself am disgusted by this story. I feel that tragic real life events should not be used in entertainment purposes, which I'm sure you'll agree fanfiction is. This week marking the sixth anniversary of the senseless tragedy that took place i would like to believe that as an international community we are looking to the future and trying to work together to not only move forwards but to examine why these events happen in our world. i was more than appalled by the memoriam sentiment. "We shall not forget. We cannot forgive." I question who it is that you as an author are implying cannot be forgiven. By writing this story and making a mockery of the devastating loss some thousands of families world wide still feel, i wonder if the next story you see fit to upload will be the daring tale of Buffy and Dawns close escape from a Balinese night club, or perhaps you can have the gang travel back to 1995 and watch as high jinx ensues during the events of Srebrenicia. While i am not saying that a person may need a creative output for the feelings they have about these events i believe that there is line of common decency that has been crossed in this story. By saying that we cannot forgive the events that have occurred it almost seems as if you are encouraging a cycle of hate and distrust to continue. I am more than willing to discuss this with you further and here your point of view, don't hesitate to contact me **
Review By [StephanieClare] • Date [11 Sep 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Lack of Vision" from Arekanderu
Cordelia's reaction was not very believable. Maybe if you had her father or mother working there or something ......
Review By [Arekanderu] • Date [11 Sep 07] • Not Rated
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