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Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Godogma
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Sure, PM/Email is fine by me. I sent a response that way.
Comments from author:
Got it. Reply on the way. We be cooking now wif grease! :)
Review By [Godogma] • Date [1 Jan 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Godogma
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That's why I said good demon lawyers. XD

And honestly with all the crap the Council tried to pull / did pull fairly successfully they had some kind of in with the crown and British government anyway or at least it always seemed/felt that way to me. Like you used in the Epilogue of the Rio Bravo fic more or less...

I figure that it's equally likely that they use some form of neutral/just in it for the money demon lawyers to deal with council things so income from strange sources etc isn't all out in the open or a place like Switzerland with a legacy key system where they don't ask a hell of a lot of questions about their clients.

Either that or entailed investments and the like. There's really no telling; being a very important organization in the Buffy verse of course they got all the screen time they deserved... Much like veritaserum in HP-land mentioned a few times then never used again. :P
Comments from author:
*nod* I always figured that the British Crown had a liaison to the Council, and otherwise, left them more or less alone. Kind of using them as an "In case of Armageddon, break glass" measure.

If they really had been around for as long as both canon implied and fanon would have it, then that just makes sense, you know?

I disagree with the tendency that a lot of fanon has to give them diplomatic immunity and all sorts of plenipotentiary powers, however. That would require a level of official acknowledgement and a paper trail that I don't think the Crown would risk.

I replied to your PM. We can take this up in email, if you want?
Review By [Godogma] • Date [1 Jan 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Godogma
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Not to Rupert Giles and Buffy Summers to the Entity... I can see the assets of the Council itself being set to be delivered unto the New Council or those who are taking over in their place with a mystical checks and balances thing. To ensure the world keeps spinning.

Not through the courts or anything where lawyers would even know it exists. Unless they were demon lawyers or something working for the good side - which I find just as likely as Wolfram and Hart. Demons just in it for the money would be a good place to set up plans and backup plans for the shit hitting the fan after all.

You're right Angel isn't the sharpest knife in any drawer even if it's stuffed in there with butter knives. Frankly he's been the stupidest person since Buffy for quite a while.
Comments from author:
Heh. Well, we agree on something there, anyway. ;)

"I can see the assets of the Council itself being set to be delivered unto the New Council or those who are taking over in their place with a mystical checks and balances thing. To ensure the world keeps spinning. "

I apparently may not have had enough coffee yet. I'm having a hard time seeing how that would work at the moment. What "mystical checks and balances"? You mean set up and activated through the "Powers that Be" or some such crap? The not a good guy "good guy powers"? Or something else?

Otherwise, the Council and its members live in and function through the real world and the banks, just like any organization, regardless of the fact that they may (or may not) be fighting the good fight in the supernatural realms.

When the Council gets unexpectedly blown up - and I think they're too arrogant in canon to conceive of a need for a contingency - then realistically, the British government and the Brit equivalent of the IRS swoops down on all of those funds and suddenly unowned accounts and confiscates the money for the Gov. Or at the very least, ties it all up in red tape for for freaking ever.

Based on the canon evidence, the Powers of Good - if there are any, which is questionable - can't get their thumbs out of their butts long enough to do anything useful on that score.
Review By [Godogma] • Date [1 Jan 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Godogma
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Yeah, I could see this happening in the stupidity of Joss World; not so much in reality... Council of old rich blooded white dudes gets blown up, all their assets likely go to the new council... Idiots try to sue and put all their names on a public document...

The Initiative was only one program; now they have a public document with addresses and all to go door to door to pick up Slayers... You honestly think the militaries of the world won't go catch a live one to vivisect? Welcome every idiotic bitca and their families who decided to jump on the lawsuit train to the life of a feral hog - the season just opened, there's no bag limit and Slayers are mmm mmm good.

The New Council hasn't got to worry long; they just signed their own death warrant from the very societies they're trying to use to sue the council. And they just chummed the sharks VERY nicely. Not to mention if one of the few vamps out there who are smart finds it; it's a road map to lunch for them too!

EDIT: And it's bound to take quite a few of them before the military of wherever is convinced it's not something they can duplicate... However now they'll just conscript for re-education all these fine young girls and they can have a good life as the attack dogs of whichever country brief as it may be.

Guess it would really be unintended consequences from both ends ... XD
Comments from author:
Snerk. It's humor and crack fic. Not to be taken seriously in any way. ;)

I kind of agree, but I see that going both ways: the New Council is kind of trying to close the barn after the horse is gone as far as their trying to get control of/support all of the Slayers called by the spell. By the time they get organized and can reasonably start locating and making contact with Slayers, enough time has gone by that all of them have either been found and killed (or recruited by other people), or they've already made their own accommodations and adjustments to what happened to them. And they've already decided what they want to do with their new skills and abilities.

"Council of old rich blooded white dudes gets blown up, all their assets likely go to the new council..."

That I'm not seeing. Why would the New Council realistically get the old one's assets? Quentin Travers and the Council Board of Directors left contingency orders that "If we're unexpectedly blown up, Buffy Summers and Rupert Giles get all of our assets"?

I'm having a hard time seeing s6 & s7 "I can't find anything on Google" super-hacker Rosenberg using the banking computer system to get at them...

As far as the rest of it: hey, Angel wasn't the sharpest tool on the pegboard at any point in canon. I can see him thinking it's a grand idea and it blowing up in the faces of all of the slayers and families he's trying to help. ;)
Review By [Godogma] • Date [1 Jan 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Dhampyr
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And this is why the old Council had wetworks teams on the payroll. Easier to pay them to make inconvenient people that want to sue disappear than it is to pay off people insisting on payoffs. Might not work as well with Slayers, but Wood and Angel could vanish pretty quick in a way that could not be traced back. Well, that or call in a favor from D'hoffryn to put pressure to make the lawsuits go away. And give Angel boils. Because that was the best idea Spike ever had and he never go to go through with it.
Comments from author:
Yeah. Because killing lawyers always makes lawsuits go away...
Review By [Dhampyr] • Date [26 Nov 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Gideon
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Sounds like it is time to take out the CEO of Wolfram and Hart! After all, attacking a law firm couldn't make anything worse, right?
Comments from author:
Nope, nope. Couldn't possibly...
Review By [Gideon] • Date [17 Nov 13] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from GundumM
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LOL and frankly its good enough that I'm have trouble keeping my rear end in this chair and upgrading it to lmao
Comments from author:
*rofl* Thanks. I had fun writing this one. ;)
Review By [GundumM] • Date [4 Dec 08] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from TweedWizz
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Given what 'Get It Done' told us, I'd vote guilty on the lot of them. The 'empowerment' was nothing less than a mass violation on each and every potential outside of Sunnydale.

Well done for recognising that in this amusing fic.
Comments from author:
Thanks.

Honestly, it doesn't take a major intellect to recognize that after Get it Done. Just a larger one than Joss has, apparently. ;)
Review By [TweedWizz] • Date [11 Nov 08] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Acherlyn
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Very....very nice.....*evil cackle*....
Comments from author:
It just had to be done. ;)
Review By [Acherlyn] • Date [25 Mar 08] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Acherlyn
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Harsh.....really harsh........oh well....there goes the Council funds....
Review By [Acherlyn] • Date [25 Mar 08] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from (Past Donor)wozwashi
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MUUUUHHHHHHHHAAAAAA

fun!
Review By [(Past Donor)wozwashi] • Date [12 Feb 08] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from (Past Donor)Jewel
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Utterly hilarious! Great start to the work-day morning, thank you :)
Review By [(Past Donor)Jewel] • Date [12 Feb 08] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from Mcspender
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Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!!.
Dude, you read my mind =D!.

See ya!!.
Review By [Mcspender] • Date [11 Feb 08] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from GarnetAvi
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This might be a good time for them all to discretely, but quickly, lose all association with the Watchers Council. This being the reason superheroes never take personal credit for their work.
I thought the Andrew part was especially funny: he stuck around for a while, played at being a watcher, then got bored and wandered off. I actually like Andrew, but this does seem like something he'd do.
Comments from author:
*snicker* Who, us? No no no - I'm the *other* Buffy Summers! Yeah - that's it! ;)

I always wanted to do an x-over set in Season 3 where the Watcher's Council operatives and Wes make it out of Sunnydale with Faith in the van - and then get pulled over by Murtaugh and Riggs in LA. And then have to go on trail for kidnapping an underage girl and alleged intended sexual assault. (Remember, they had Faith chained in the van... ) Having to answer a lot of questions from some no-nonsense LA Cops and California prosecutor about why exactly British subjects were claiming jurisdiction over an American Citizen, kidnapping on US soil... A pissed off Joyce Summers testifying that Quentin Travers had her kidnapped, assualted, and locked in an abandoned house with a "gang member on PCP* ;)

One of these days, I may actually get around to writing it.
Review By [GarnetAvi] • Date [11 Feb 08] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Unintended Consequences..." from ChiVayne
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Defense? "Empowerment spell, what empowerment spell? I have no idea what you are talking about."
"And even if such a 'spell' was cast, where's your proof it did what you say?" Where's your proof of any of this?
Comments from author:
Prosecution: "Now, Mr. and Mrs. Morganthaler, on the afternoon of the 25th, did or did not a Mr. Giles come to your home to speak to you and your 14 year old daughter about attending a 'private academy' for the training of her 'special abilities' that he then claimed that he and his friends were responsible for 'awakening'? And did he not then take your daughter to the cemetary for a 'demonstration'? Thank you. The prosecution would next like to call Julia Morganthaler to the stand... "

One word: "Litiginous society". Ok, so that's two words, but who's counting? ;) You don't have to win a lawsuit in order to make it extremely expensive for the defendants. Ruin their reputations, media circus, paint them as a dangerous cult preying on teeanage girls... cause them to want to settle out of court for obscene amounts of money. ;)

And Wolfram and Hart cheats.
Review By [ChiVayne] • Date [10 Feb 08] • Not Rated
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