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Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from (Past Donor)FireDragon
Review:
I am so glad you were able to save Janet. I hope the demon girl will make a full recovery. looking forward to more
Comments from author:
I had to make it cost something. I wanted to save Janet, but such things can't be 'easy'. The nature of that episode was such that if Janet was there, she was in jeopardy. I too hope Elizabeth makes a full recovery. Not sure yet.

Blue
Review By [(Past Donor)FireDragon] • Date [13 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from spk
Review:
Great update. Fantastic job with Janet's characterization. :)
Comments from author:
Thank you! Glad you liked. Had a little help from DieselDriver at the end. Love how it turned out.

Blue
Review By [spk] • Date [13 Nov 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from CycoMW
Review:
Very enjoyable and interesting read. Very glad I gave reading it a chance. Loving your take on all the characters.

Thanks for writing and sharing.
Comments from author:
Thank you for reading and reviewing. I'm grateful that you enjoy my take on the characters. I hope you don't mind my asking -- was there a reason you hesitated about giving it a chance? (I want to make sure my introduction is not off-putting.)

Peace,

Blue
Review By [CycoMW] • Date [13 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from DieselDriver
Review:
I LIKE IT!!!
Comments from author:
Thank you!! :-)
Review By [DieselDriver] • Date [12 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from (Current Donor)Cordyfan
Review:
Great chapter and s very intriguing idea for a demon and an equally interesting cure. Hopefully Elizabeth will make a full recovery, even she needs a little help from the healing device. Spike is taking the SGC remarkably well, considering his previous experience of underground military bases. Sooner or later, Buffy or someone will have to explain to Cordy that he really is a bona fide hero, for his actions at the end in Sunnydale. Cordy's also being a little quieter than I expected, but I presume that's due to the fact that she's only just come out of the coma and the usual attitude will take a while to rear its head...

Thanks for writing this.
Comments from author:
Thank you. I enjoyed trying to figure out *after the fact* just how Somgan physiology was gonna work... did a ton of research about silicon chemistry then it hit me. Water purification systems. So simple.

Spike and Cordy. Their day will come. Right now, not wanting to focus on them. Assume they're talking. I don't think either of them has a 'silent' bone in their bodies. Just sayin'! Nope, I don't think Spike is thrilled to be in the great underground bunker, but he trusts Buffy and Buffy trusts the folk in this bunker. Plus, he can tell that some big stuff is going on and he's gonna get to know about it.

Yes, our Cordy. Will have her day. Or days. ;-P

Peace,

Blue
Review By [(Current Donor)Cordyfan] • Date [12 Nov 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from DieselDriver
Review:
That second to last line was a bit anomalous. Or so it appeared to me. I would have said "she's got her whole life ahead of her..." not career. Other than that lack of caring on someone's part, this was a very interesting chapter. I like the detail.
Comments from author:
I guess I was thinking like I thought an officer might think... her life and her career... maybe that's what I should have put. Anyway, Janet of all people cares... I'll look into it. I'm very glad that you like the rest of the chapter. I worked on it quite a bit. Struggled a bit, actually.

blue

Edit: let me know what you think of the new version.
Review By [DieselDriver] • Date [12 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from slmncpm
Review:
i love love love this chapter, thank you!
Comments from author:
I thank, thank, thank thee for thy kind words of support!

Blue
Review By [slmncpm] • Date [12 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from Mcspender
Review:
So, Elizabeth and thalasso therapy for the win??. I mean, next time she gets hurt, she only has to go to the beach to get better XD.

Cool chapter, see ya!!!.
Comments from author:
Yeah, thalassotherapy, so it would seem... maybe it's no accident... it's one of my favorite forms of therapy! I wish it were as simple as lying on the beach, soaking up the sun and sea water...

Thanks

Blue
Review By [Mcspender] • Date [11 Nov 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from Rich
Review:
One of the challenges in a story like this is describing an impossible event in a way that seems believable. You're doing a very nice job of that. Nice work.

Edit : This may be a dumb idea, but I'm going to throw in my two cents on the Spike vs, Angel controversy. As you say, this isn't going to change anybody's mind.

Angel : Cursed with a soul he didn't want, which drove him to do heroic things to prove he deserved it.

Spike : Fought for a soul, and did heroic things to help Buffy.

Angel is a good man, in many ways better than Spike. But personally, I think Spike is a better match to Buffy (and Tealc is probably a better match than either of them).
Comments from author:
So glad that I have been making the impossible feel possible. I really do enjoy trying to craft a situation with sufficiently realistic ground rules and events so that when I come up with something outlandish, it doesn't seem too strange.

I agree with you about both Angel and Spike. I love them both, though I think the Spike relationship was able to mature into something better, and temperamentally, they're very compatible... they pull the best out of each other. That said, I really enjoy Teal'c and his wisdom and centeredness and what it does for Buffy -- as well as what Buffy is able to give *him*... He's a man whose life has been so very dark at times, and somehow, with her understanding of darkness, but having her light and her humor... well, she brings him joy... and I think it's mutual.

But I've said too much, haven't I? ;-)

Peace,

Blue
Review By [Rich] • Date [11 Nov 14] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from RevDorothyL
Review:
Sand, sun, and salt water -- I do so hope they do the trick! :)
Comments from author:
Yes, well... so do I. It's not the normal way of doing things, but it was so much fun to come up with!

Blue
Review By [RevDorothyL] • Date [11 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from ShalaDakiri
Review:
I'm guessing if Bob had continued to be obstructive, he wouldn't have lasted much longer in the SGC. Considering some of the alien physiologies the teams have encountered, keeping an open mind about treatments is a necessity (I'm thinking of the plant people who needed a specific ambient sound to survive).

I will say again that I've liked Buffy's relationship with Teal'c. From what I've picked up, it seems Buffy has already chosen Teal'c. I just hope she doesn't put herself (and Teal'c) through too much drama before letting him know.
Comments from author:
Some people are rigid. Some people are flexible. It takes both for the world to run. The rigid people keep order and stop the flexible people from blowing shit up! The flexible people dream dreams and transform the world! Of course, my theory is that Bob's just a good doc and not in possession of all the requisite info... After all, it's not the done thing to bring in industrial chemicals into an OR and start spooning them into open wounds! :-)

I love Buffy and Teal'c and that's all I can say for now. I think this whole situation will give her the answers she needs... But there will be some grief too...

Blue
Review By [ShalaDakiri] • Date [11 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from (Recent Donor)draconin
Review:
Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor, not a landscape gardener!
Shut up and keep shovelling that sand in, McCoy.
Comments from author:
This one made me laugh so loud!! I can totally imagine this conversation! I loved the dynamic with McCoy in TOS. As a gardener, I've used DE in my yard. I never imagined this particular scenario... until now.

thanks for the review and the laugh.

Blue
Review By [(Recent Donor)draconin] • Date [11 Nov 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hail Mary" from Harry
Review:
Well, this cadet who took the damage is a vampire, but NOT your typical one. And with what Sam, Janet, Spike and Buffy have managed to find out, a way to help her heal has been figured out and put into effect. Now, its just a matter of keeping the healing components going until she is healed.

As for the leader of this small group, she has to learn, that while you are the leader, you cannot take all the burden upon yourself. Work with others, learn to share the burden. Do that, and you will survive. Fail, and you will be burned out before very long.
Comments from author:
We just have to keep shoveling and hope that things turn out right!! It's nice when people think outside the box. I just had so much fun with figuring out just how I was going to use the need for Si in her diet... fun and work!

Leadership is hard. Good leadership takes many things, but one of those things is the ability to care, but still be able to step back and not carry all the pain and loss your people (and by extension you the leader) may experience. You have to function and as you say, sharing the burden is the only way. Carrying around the burden that Heather is trying to carry... one of blame and self doubt? As you say, it will burn you... maybe even destroy you.

Thanks!

Blue
Review By [Harry] • Date [11 Nov 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Heroes" from lateVMlover
Review:
I'm really glad you found a way to save Cordelia. Too bad the show couldn't. Your explanation of what was going on with her was both clever and believable. Looking forward to what you do more-minus the ridiculous and unbelievable love triangle with Spike, of course. I find it hilarious and hypocritical that you found her relationship with Angel creepy and supported Spike. They're entire relationship was based on sex and violence. There was no love involved in it on her side. She and Angel had a sweet romance that was doomed to fail. I'd never have imagined her with Teal'C but you do a great job writing him. What you do the best, though, is sharing many different view points. That's a gift!
Comments from author:
I'm glad you're happy about Cordelia. If you read my profile page, you'll find that I am very unhappy about how Cordelia was treated on the show. In addition to that, I really enjoy writing her character. I'm really grateful that you enjoy my point of view changes. It just feels natural to write that way, though I know some people don't like it.

Thank you very much for your review.


OK, and this is the last time I'm going to explain about my feelings about the difference between Angel and Spike. I'm sure you won't change your mind and that's OK. I just want you to know that I've given this a great deal of thought to this.


Angel:

When he first showed up in season one, he was supposed to be about 26. Buffy was 16. It would have been legally statutory rape for them to have sex on her 17th birthday, but the age difference means he would have received the full penalty. It was basically sex abuse in the eyes of the law.

However... as a slayer with an expiration date AND the weight of the world, I have decided that Buffy is 'more of' an adult in her own eyes, and so it's not quite as bad... but Angel had lived in America for almost a century. He should know better. While I think he does a lot of great things, this was his LOWEST point other than when he abandoned Cordy, Wes and Gunn.

Let me put it this way, if Buffy were your daughter or little sister, would you want her dating and sleeping with a man Angel's apparent age? (especially considering he had 224 years of life experience more than she did). There was a HUGE power difference between them. That's not romantic.

I've worked with many people who were the victims of sexual abuse... it screws them up for life.


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Spike:

Yes, Buffy and Spike's relationship is extremely troubling -- one wonders if she's so scarred from her relationship with Angel, she couldn't form another relationship again.

The worst of the abuse is in terms of how she treats him, which is extremely abusive at times, as evidenced by the beating outside the police station, which is straight up domestic violence. She left him so broken he couldn't get up and he could have died when the sun came up. What he did when he 'tried to make her see' she loved him... when he tried to force her to have sex with him... When you take it in context of that beating, it actually isn't that surprising, though of course, it is wrong and horrible. So yes, I'm VERY disturbed by those things.

What is clear, however, a) he learns something from this event and goes to get his soul and b) AFTER he comes back with his soul how much his behavior changes. That is when they develop a true friendship and relationship... when she depends on him and when I believe things really do change between them.

At the point of his death, he is the person she trusts most in the world and cares deeply for.

HE is the person she gives credit for giving her the strength to get the scythe.

He is the person SHE chooses to wear the amulet... because she trusts him not to let her down.

Yes, it is a very toxic relationship in season six, though both in season 5 and 6, we see that Spike will give up his life for Buffy AND her family. That is a BIG deal. When he takes the beat down from Glory... it changes how Buffy views him, though I believe at that point, she's too scared of being involved with another vampire to do anything more than give him a tiny kiss. Still, if you don't see their connection as early as season 4 and 5, that's fine. It's season 7 that seals it for me.

You see, I do know people who have turned toxic, obsessive relationships into healthy relationships. Yes, it *is* rare, but if people face their demons (addicts getting clean, for example - which is analogous to Spike getting his soul, and Buffy regaining her will to live (with Spike's help, however messy) -- then love can survive and come out on the other side. I have seen this happen.

Since I have no doubt that Spike loves Buffy enough to give up his life, I can believe this had potential. When Angel found out he couldn't have sex with Buffy, he didn't go find out how to get his soul fixed, he left her. He walked away. He didn't discuss it with her. They didn't talk. He just decided. BECAUSE HE WAS THE *ADULT* IN HIS MIND. She didn't rate an opinion. When he turned human, he didn't decide to stay with her, he was too afraid to be weak and took back being a vampire... and he never told Buffy the truth. He made the choices. Her opinion wasn't relevant. That's not the action of a partner. That's tyrannical. At best, it's the act of a patronizing parent.

I see Angel as a hero and I love him, but I don't think he built a real relationship with Buffy. I think he made choices for the women in his life and lied to them -- he did the same thing to Cordelia when she came back and they wouldn't tell her about the supernatural. You don't lie to people you love. If you do, they aren't in a relationship with you. They're in a relationship with the PRETEND you. I'd divorce someone who deceived me about something that important.


To sum up.

I've never seen a sexual abuse situation turn into a relationship, no matter how much 'love' the adult has for the child 'lover'. I've only seen broken victims who can't trust themselves or others and usually cannot form healthy relationships. Angel didn't see the problem with getting involved with a young, impressionable girl and sleeping with her while she was still a minor. He made all the decisions and got the 'hot young thing'. It was not appropriate.

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I *have* seen people who were very, very screwed up rebuild themselves and form a relationship that is strong and whole. Even after violence and a lot of craziness. It takes honesty and hard work, but I think it can happen. Spike had the honesty to realize he HAD to get a soul so he could make proper HUMAN judgments. He transformed himself over the course of the series. In season five, he almost died for Dawn. In season six he risked death to get his soul. In season seven he died to save the world... the same decision Buffy had made in season five.

By contrast, Angel had Angelus on a leash on the first day, and also on the last day... I like him, but he didn't change. He didn't address his issues. He didn't make his soul permanent. he did fight hard to save the world and I do believe he loved Buffy... but not enough to figure out how to anchor his soul.

Buffy had a childlike, sweet romance with Angel... it wasn't real.
Buffy had an adult relationship with Spike. It was fucked up, it was scary, but it was very, very real... and both of them grew up.

When the rubber hit the road at the end of the day... Spike was there for her and gave her strength... because that's what adult relationships do... Not roses and chocolates, but total support when all your friends turn on you and it's the end of the world.

I would have and DID choose the man who as there for ME. Chocolates are irrelevant when the demons are at your door.

It's not how messed up you are, it's how honest you are that makes the difference between a good relationship and a bad one. Honest about yourself as well as honesty between partners.
Review By [lateVMlover] • Date [9 Nov 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The breaking in the dreams" from lateVMlover
Review:
I really love your story. I like how you give some many character perspectives. However, you're a bit delusional to write that Spike is some great love of Buffy's. Not even before he caught fire did he believe her when she said she loved him. She was never in love with him. Can you be more of an Angel hater? So not right!
Comments from author:
If you think I hate Angel, you should read After Midnight! I don't hate him at all, though I'm not afraid to bring out anyone's flaws. I will admit that I'm a Spuffy fan, but the truth is, most of my Buffy-centered stories pair Buffy with someone else.

You're entitled to your opinion about Spike and Buffy and I'm entitled to mine. I think that Angel and Buffy's relationship was seriously creepy, though I like Angel the character and was originally more of an Angel fan than a Buffy fan. My problem with their relationship was that he was an adult and she was more or less a child, even though as a slayer, carrying the weight of the world, she was a quasi adult. It was also just a very a sappy 'romance novel' kind of relationship without adult communication or much reality and that never really has appealed to me much.

In that relationship, Buffy is looking up to Angel... she's not his equal. Buffy and Spike's relationship was more equal. He fought alongside her, not for her. They actually talked. Angel made the decisions for Buffy, Spike never did. Buffy just looked at Angel with adoration... they didn't communicate.

On the other hand, the relationship with Spike was quite destructive. That didn't preclude love, however.

Thank you for your review.

Peace,

Blue
Review By [lateVMlover] • Date [8 Nov 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
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