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Review of chapter "Chapter One" from fanreaderonetwo
Review:
""Atlantis personnel got a huge surprise that evening as the sun was setting. A ship, a three masted war galleon with 128 guns AND a tri-barrel runner gun at the bow just appeared, rising up out of the sea. Weirder yet, someone started calling out from the rigging, in English, trying to get anyone on the city/ship’s attention."

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A "128 war galleon" is a bit over the top. Note that the HMS Victory, Nelson's flagship at Trafalgar was only _100_ guns and was one of the largest ship in the Royal Navy in 1805. The Spanish Santisima Trinidad carried about 140 guns.

I suspect that 28 guns, or less, would be more appropriate armament for a _war galleon_ dating from 1600-1750.

Also, exactly what is a "tri-barrel runner gun"?
Do you mean an (anachronistic) 3-barreled gatling gun mounted as a bow chaser,
or something more sci-fi?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trafalgar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Victory 100 guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Nuestra_Se%C3%B1ora_de_la_Sant%C3%ADsima_Trinidad 140 guns

"The Santísima Trinidad (officially named Santísima Trinidad by Royal Order on 12 March 1768, nicknamed La Real and sometimes confused with the Manila galleon Santísima Trinidad y Nuestra Señora del Buen Fin) was a Spanish first-rate ship of the line of 112 guns, which was increased in 1795–96 to 130 guns by closing in the spar deck between the quarterdeck and forecastle, and around 1802 to 140 guns, thus creating what was in effect a continuous fourth gundeck although the extra guns added were actually relatively small. She was the heaviest-armed ship in the world when rebuilt, and bore the most guns of any ship of the line outfitted in the Age of sail."

Comments from author:

Wiki is horribly inaccurate, a lot of the time because ANYBODY can come along and change it. AND I've gotten viruses from wikis, so don't go to them. Quote facts from somewhere more reliable and official and I'll check them out.

In the meantime, I asked a friend who loves the movies to tell me what guns the ships had and other pertinent facts so that I could be accurate. He loves trivia like that and was only too happy to oblige and because he's been a reliable source in the past, I didn't double check it. We're talking about a specific ship in a film, not an actually historical vessel.

He informs me that the tri-barrel runner gun on the bow was for three chances to shoot a ship's mast as you chased it, so that you didn't have to give the enemy your broadside as you attacked. That or for shooting out the rudder so the prey couldn't maneuver. *shrugs*"

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The stuff in the wiki probably came _straight_ out of some history book(s) or other,
so its reliable, particularly about the HMS Victory (a _very_ famous and well documented vessel) and the Battle of Trafalgar. You can look up the ship and the battle in any number of print or on-line sources.
The precise data about the Santísima Trinidad is a little more obscure, but matches what I've read about her in print.

Just look up the number of guns carried by small to medium sized warships in that era, and successful pirate ships were usually on the small but fast and handy side, not battleships.


As for the "tri-barrel runner gun", it was either a _very_ odd and extremely rare weapon, (meaning that it extremely impractical and quickly discarded and forgotten) or else it was something a hack writer dreamed up to spice up a novel or movie.
Like the "flying guillotine" I recall used in a low-rent kung fu movie of the same name.
My money is that the tri-barrel runner gun was imaginary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_the_Flying_Guillotine
Comments from author:
I appreciate your enthusiasm for what you're trying to say. However, I am dealing with a movie ship that had this armament, not a real vessel. And I will NOT go to a wiki.

Have you even seen the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? The tri-barrel gun WAS in the movie, so take up your objections with IT, not me. Okay? Can we drop this now? Please?
Review By [fanreaderonetwo] • Date [3 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Adventures in babysitting" from raxadian
Review:
Oh, so they are fighting the Deep Ones now?

Edit2:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_One
Comments from author:
What are those? *curious*

Edited to add:
I don't go to wiki addresses, have gotten viruses there in the past and my ancient computer can't take any more. *rueful chuckle* Is there an official site you can direct me to?
Edited again:
Googled it. HP Lovecraft? I don't read his stuff. *shrugs*
Review By [raxadian] • Date [2 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Ahoy the city!" from fanreaderonetwo
Review:
"Atlantis personnel got a huge surprise that evening as the sun was setting. A ship, a three masted war galleon with 128 guns AND a tri-barrel runner gun at the bow just appeared, rising up out of the sea. Weirder yet, someone started calling out from the rigging, in English, trying to get anyone on the city/ship’s attention."

******

A "128 war galleon" is a bit over the top. Note that the HMS Victory, Nelson's flagship at Trafalgar was only _100_ guns and was one of the largest ship in the Royal Navy in 1805. The Spanish Santisima Trinidad carried about 140 guns.

I suspect that 28 guns, or less, would be more appropriate armament for a _war galleon_ dating from 1600-1750.

Also, exactly what is a "tri-barrel runner gun"?
Do you mean an (anachronistic) 3-barreled gatling gun mounted as a bow chaser,
or something more sci-fi?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trafalgar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Victory 100 guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Nuestra_Se%C3%B1ora_de_la_Sant%C3%ADsima_Trinidad 140 guns

"The Santísima Trinidad (officially named Santísima Trinidad by Royal Order on 12 March 1768, nicknamed La Real and sometimes confused with the Manila galleon Santísima Trinidad y Nuestra Señora del Buen Fin) was a Spanish first-rate ship of the line of 112 guns, which was increased in 1795–96 to 130 guns by closing in the spar deck between the quarterdeck and forecastle, and around 1802 to 140 guns, thus creating what was in effect a continuous fourth gundeck although the extra guns added were actually relatively small. She was the heaviest-armed ship in the world when rebuilt, and bore the most guns of any ship of the line outfitted in the Age of sail."
Comments from author:
Wiki is horribly inaccurate, a lot of the time because ANYBODY can come along and change it. AND I've gotten viruses from wikis, so don't go to them. Quote facts from somewhere more reliable and official and I'll check them out.

In the meantime, I asked a friend who loves the movies to tell me what guns the ships had and other pertinent facts so that I could be accurate. He loves trivia like that and was only too happy to oblige and because he's been a reliable source in the past, I didn't double check it. We're talking about a specific ship in a film, not an actually historical vessel.

He informs me that the tri-barrel runner gun on the bow was for three chances to shoot a ship's mast as you chased it, so that you didn't have to give the enemy your broadside as you attacked. That or for shooting out the rudder so the prey couldn't maneuver. *shrugs*
Review By [fanreaderonetwo] • Date [2 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of story "The Orb of Janus (or That Ball thingy)" from Bobboky
Review:
Very good work
Comments from author:
Thank you! *vbg*

Edited to add: I rewrote the last chapter because of some misunderstanding with another reviewer. I hope it's clearer now. Let me know if it's any good?
Review By [Bobboky] • Date [1 Nov 14] • Not Rated • Edit Comment
Review of story "The Orb of Janus (or That Ball thingy)" from raxadian
Review:
Okay, this is getting too complicated... and again, it would be explained better if Dawn was the girl's mother. Since Dawn is the key and all. But is your story and I respect your right to write whatever you want.
Comments from author:
Wait, in no way would Dawn being Atiya's mother explain anything. Dawn being the Key has nothing to do with a 6 year old Slayer. I don't know where you're getting that idea from, can you tell me?

Edited to add: Okay, I've rewritten the chapter. Can you let me know if it helped you understand where I'm coming from with this story and that Dawn isn't necessary?
Review By [raxadian] • Date [1 Nov 14] • Not Rated • Edit Comment
Review of chapter "Ahoy the city!" from raxadian
Review:
Yeah, I say the same, what?
Comments from author:
You didn't like my insinuation that the alternate John that died on the show was Will's grandson?
Review By [raxadian] • Date [1 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Well THAT'S new!" from raxadian
Review:
Well, that was somewhat funny.
Comments from author:
Thank you... I think. Was that a compliment?
Review By [raxadian] • Date [1 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Trouble with a capital T" from raxadian
Review:
So, John will be the protagonist then?
Comments from author:
I had planned on it being Xander, but John kinda took over, didn't he? *g*
Review By [raxadian] • Date [1 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "What happens next" from raxadian
Review:
It would fit way better if Xander was married to Dawn, as she is the one that does have portal opening powers in the show, and was supposed to get superpowers if the show had continued. Also I totally see Dawn learning a few transformation spells from willow.
Comments from author:
Okay, I give up. Ibuin is a goddess. A minor one, yes, but that still puts her far above the power scale of an ascended Ancient. She can do whatever I want her to be able to do. For instance, she can handle jumping from one universe to another, without opening a portal, just fine. She can do healing, if necessary. She can teleport things, sight unseen. I have yet to think of other powers for her, but give me time. And she can also love Xander as much as he deserves to be loved, even though she's an original character.

Honey, this is my story and I'm not going to pair Xander with Dawn here. If that's what you want to see, I suggest you stop reading this particular story. I'm glad you read as much as you did, but it feels like you're trying to convince me to change what I have already written. That's not a good feeling. So if, for some strange reason, you decide you want to keep reading this fic, can you please stop saying it would work better with Dawn instead of Ibuin? I'd really appreciate it. Thank you.
Review By [raxadian] • Date [1 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from raxadian
Review:
Ah, Xander new family thing? Well, he would kind of fit.
Comments from author:
*g* Yeah. He would, wouldn't he? *chuckle*
Review By [raxadian] • Date [1 Nov 14] • Not Rated
Review of story "The Orb of Janus (or That Ball thingy)" from Dragan
Review:
Atiya would demand that the First Grade part be THE major protestation! lol

After all, Kindergarten is for babies! :)

BTW if you are looking for ideas, you could always go for the old dimensions merging.
Comments from author:
If she had been awake, she might have. *chuckle*

Been there, said that one myself once upon a time. LOL

Uhhh... No, think I'll avoid that one, but thanks for suggesting something. :)
Review By [Dragan] • Date [1 Nov 14] • Not Rated • Edit Comment
Review of chapter "Ahoy the city!" from loretta
Review:
this is a good story, i cant wait to see what will happen next
Comments from author:
I have some ideas, but the muse isn't cooperating with actually writing anything down yet. That and real life is kinda hectic at the moment. *rueful chuckle*
Review By [loretta] • Date [2 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Ahoy the city!" from IcemanII
Review:
I just found this story, great story so far. Its a lot of fun. I liked the reunion, the Marines' desire to keep Xander's daughter was cool but Marines and Slayers are like ham and cheese, they just go together. And I take it that Xander and John are Sparrows. It looks really promising and fun.Keep up the good work, hope to see more!
Comments from author:
Well thank you for the nice review! I'll try to do more when my work schedule and the muse allows. :)
Review By [IcemanII] • Date [15 Sep 11] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Ahoy the city!" from Morgomir
Review:
Interesting story. Keep up the good work.
Comments from author:
I'll try, another one is in my head already, at least in part. Now if I can just get it down on paper...
Review By [Morgomir] • Date [29 Aug 11] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Ahoy the city!" from (Past Donor)severuswinchester
Review:
A treat to read. I liked the reunion, the Marines' desire to keep Xander's daughter was sweet as well. Good writing.
Comments from author:
Thanks a bunch for that awesome review. You made my day! *vbg*
Review By [(Past Donor)severuswinchester] • Date [27 Aug 11] • Rating [10 out of 10]
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