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Review of chapter "Chapter One" from (Current Donor)Ironbear
Review:
From the exchange between you and Texaswookie: "Yes, it was definitely a Charlie-Foxtrot situation, and not a victory for the good guys. ;-("

Whachew talkin' about, Willis? Any tale that ends with Angel and Spike being dust is a victory for the Good Guys! (Damn shame about Harmony.)

Hopefully that last portal opens up in the W&H sanitarium/hospital/rest home and now they're rescuing Cordelia so she can be healed and woken up. ;)

ETA response:

"And by this point in time, without some sort of semi-divine intervention, Cordelia was just a meat bag lying in her bed and wasting away."

*eyeroll* Three words: Mohra Demon Blood. Seriously, I'm surprised Angel didn't think of it, considering he's had freaking experience with the stuff. And any number of deity types that just might consider listening to a request from one of the people who's helped keep the world turning for almost a decade... especially if it would poke W&H and the PTB in the eye.

"What *this* universe desperately needed was a Loki/Gabriel-type figure (from Supernatural) lurking in the background and looking to put it to the Powers That Be Completely Fucking Useless, as well as the Wolf, Ram and Hart. ;-("

Janus? Sounds like that'd be just up his alley... ;)

We are authors! We don't need to get lobotomies and be Joss about this! ;)
Comments from author:
Glad you enjoyed the story, buddy. And I agree that any story where the Ambiguously Straight (?) Undead Duo gets dusted is a good one.

Unfortunately, given that this is the Joss-verse - where the Good Guys (tm) get boned for pretty much any action they take, this would be a Charlie-Foxtrot situation, no matter what they choose to do. ;-(

And by this point in time, without some sort of semi-divine intervention, Cordelia was just a meat bag lying in her bed and wasting away.

What *this* universe desperately needed was a Loki/Gabriel-type figure (from Supernatural) lurking in the background and looking to put it to the Powers That Be Completely Fucking Useless, as well as the Wolf, Ram and Hart. ;-(

Response to ETA:

Based on the way Angel & co was written, I'd say that Mohra demons were retroactively removed from existence, once the writers finished their episode that rewrote time and showed Angel why he needed to remain a vampire. Blech!

As far as the rest of your comment is concerned, all I say is "AMEN!!!" ;-)
Review By [(Current Donor)Ironbear] • Date [1 Mar 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from (Past Donor)TheBear
Review:
Ok, great little short...except for on glaring flaw: Andrew and Dawn? I'm pretty sure Dawn has a little too much vagina, and not enough penis to be an acceptable partner for Andrew.
Of course, that's just my opinion...I could be wrong.
(probably not though)
Comments from author:
I understand your comment completely, but that's why we write these stories - to push the boundaries of the unbelievable. Right? ;-)
Review By [(Past Donor)TheBear] • Date [12 Nov 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from (Current Donor)dogbertcarroll
Review:
Assumptions kill!
Comments from author:
Yep. And in this case, they most certainly did.
Review By [(Current Donor)dogbertcarroll] • Date [21 Oct 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from serenityselena
Review:
interesting story
Comments from author:
Thanks. That's one way to describe it. ;-)
Review By [serenityselena] • Date [31 Aug 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from texaswookie
Review:
Classic good guy misunderstanding and causing more problems than good before they realize they screwed up. Might be interesting what the fallout from this might be.
Comments from author:
Yes, it was definitely a Charlie-Foxtrot situation, and not a victory for the good guys. ;-(

My muse doesn't seem to be interested in doing anything more with this, so if anyone out there wants to pick it up and go forward, feel free to do so. It's definitely a downer Scooby-verse.
Review By [texaswookie] • Date [31 Aug 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from djhardim
Review:
You can tell something is wrong. The fact that Andrew is with Dawn tells me something is up.

I can see it now - no sooner have the Scoobies 2.0 completed their deadly task then Andrew takes out a gun and shoots the others.

The First Evil in the guise of Buffy appears - "Report."

Andrew kneels before her and says, "Your plan worked perfectly, your majesty."
Comments from author:
Well that's on way to look at the situation and it's just as reasonable as my explanation, which I've noted several times below.

In fact, given the basic premise of the Joss-verse, it's much more likely to have actually occurred that way. ;-)
Review By [djhardim] • Date [30 Aug 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from eriktheviking
Review:
Another great alternative on what could have happened when Angel and co took over W & H.
Comments from author:
Thanks. That was all I was trying to show. ;-)
Review By [eriktheviking] • Date [30 Aug 12] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from Difdi
Review:
So Xander and Dawn have decided to become Big Bads, and are taking out their rivals?

Because that seems to be their motivation, just as much as they accuse Angel and crew of it. With equal justification, too.

Edited to reply:

Only crazy people self-identify as evil. Humans are endlessly capable of rationalizing things. Making hard decisions, doing what has to be done, it was him or me, whatever. No regrets? Good people have regrets and doubts even when they're completely in the right. The only people who don't are, you guessed it, evil.
Comments from author:
Well, the way the surviving Scoobies saw the situation is:

1.) Willow helped the Fang Gang re-soul Angelus to turn him back into Angel. How can the Scoobies be sure Angelus didn't come out to play again, after Willow left, the same way he did previously?

2.) Angel has allegedly taken over control of the EVIL law firm which has been trying to corrupt him for several years now, but said EVIL law firm still continues most of its previous activities, despite now having alleged Good Guys in charge of the firm.

3.) Angel offers Buffy a shiny magical item, which he says will help stop the First Evil (who also just happens to be a major competitor/opponent of said EVIL law firm which Angel now controls).

4.) Shiny magical item only starts working *after* the two currently most powerful Slayers and all of the brand-new Slayers Willow Activated are killed, and *then* stops the First Evil, leaving Angel's EVIL law firm the only survivor of what would have been a very nasty three-way fight, if said EVIL law firm still continued to act the way they had been doing, even though alleged Good Guys were in charge.

5.) All of the alleged Good Guys are now highly-placed executives in the aforesaid EVIL law firm, which is still acting just as it did before they took over.

6.) The only survivor of the Hellmouth disaster which killed all of your family/friends, is a vampire who you had very tentatively trusted, who had been previously (supposedly) been controlled by the First Evil, and who had also tried to rape your now dead sister/friend, and said vampire is now another highly-placed executive in the EVIL law firm.

7.) Would these facts convince you that the alleged Good Guys in charge are really Good Guys? Especially, if you find out that remnants of the Old Watchers Council are trying to attack the EVIL law firm and imprison its new CEO?

8.) All of the facts the Scoobies had available to them are outlined above. You do the math, and tell me what *your* reaction would be. And if you say, you'd show up and ask what happened, then I will concede that you are a much more trusting person than I am.

Xander, Dawn, Anya and Andrew were looking for vengeance and payback, not to become Big Bads. In that same situation, if I had the resources available, that building would be a large, smoking crater, and I would have no regrets, whatsoever.
Review By [Difdi] • Date [30 Aug 12] • Rating [1 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from ThunderGod
Review:
and another one bites the dust.....

I'm loving these fics...too bad they run out soon:{
Comments from author:
Yep. Two more left, and then the Fic-A-Day challenge is done for August.

I'm thinking I'm going to do a repeat of this past year for December, though, and post everyday from the 1st through Christmas Day. ;-)
Review By [ThunderGod] • Date [29 Aug 12] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from TinMan
Review:
Ouch.

Despite all the missunderstandings, I actually found the alternate viewpoints quite interesting.

This isn't a world I'd enjoy visiting long term, but this little flash was.... something.
Comments from author:
No, this universe was exceedingly depressive.

I'm glad my muse only took me for a very short tour through it. ;-)
Review By [TinMan] • Date [29 Aug 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from (Recent Donor)tchizek
Review:
Yes, never set your timer to go off at zero...
Comments from author:
With Andrew and Xander involved, was there actually any possibility that the Evil Overlord List would NOT be invoked, in some manner? ;-)
Review By [(Recent Donor)tchizek] • Date [29 Aug 12] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from ScorpioP
Review:
I'm not going to quibble with the killing of Spike and Angel, as both are vampires and have been shown to be liars and manipulators when evil. It's remotely plausible that a "good" Scooby Gang would kill them. However, killing Fred, Gunn, and Wes goes against everything the SunnyD crew was taught. Also, any universe where Dawn is with Andrew is deeply flawed. So, I'm going to join those who figure they turned evil somehow.
Comments from author:
Well, as I've noted elsewhere, in *this* particular universe, they believed that the entire Fang Gang was involved in the plan to destroy the Scoobies.

I also agree that it's plausible that they all became evil.
Review By [ScorpioP] • Date [29 Aug 12] • Rating [6 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from OlBear
Review:
Intriguing. Were Xander, Anya, Dawn and Andrew the only survivors from Sunnydale or did Giles and Willow make it since they weren't in the Hellmouth at the end? Obviously Xander and Co are pissed off at Angel and Spike since they're still kicking around and all their friends are dead but I'm surprised that they took out Wesley, Fred and Gunn without hesitation. The countdown on the bomb was a good touch and did they evacuate Cordy before things went 'BOOM!'?
Comments from author:
Yes, those four were the *only* survivors.

And I've outlined the facts they knew in another response, noted below, which led them to believe that everyone involved was in on the deal.

And by this time, in canon, Cordy was just a piece of meat, slowly decaying in her hospital bed, without any possible means of restoring her soul or healing her.
Review By [OlBear] • Date [29 Aug 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from (Recent Donor)drdeth
Review:
Great story, I loved the bomb! Nice to see Xander and the others become pro-active against the big bads instead of waiting for them to show up. I presume that all the others didn't make it out of Sunnydale and the survivors have gotten the impression that Angel and his team deliberately let the others die. Weather they did or not is probably going to be up to the readers to choose.
Comments from author:
As I've pointed out in two previous reviews - and which I'm glad to reiterate again - here are the facts as the surviving Scoobies saw them:

1.) Willow helped the Fang Gang re-soul Angelus to turn him back into Angel. How can the Scoobies be sure Angelus didn't come out to play again, after Willow left, the same way he did previously?

2.) Angel has allegedly taken over control of the EVIL law firm which has been trying to corrupt him for several years now, but said EVIL law firm still continues most of its previous activities, despite now having alleged Good Guys in charge of the firm.

3.) Angel offers Buffy a shiny magical item, which he says will help stop the First Evil (who also just happens to be a major competitor/opponent of said EVIL law firm which Angel now controls).

4.) Shiny magical item only starts working *after* the two currently most powerful Slayers and all of the brand-new Slayers Willow Activated are killed, and *then* stops the First Evil, leaving Angel's EVIL law firm the only survivor of what would have been a very nasty three-way fight, if said EVIL law firm still continued to act the way they had been doing, even though alleged Good Guys were in charge.

5.) All of the alleged Good Guys are now highly-placed executives in the aforesaid EVIL law firm, which is still acting just as it did before they took over.

6.) The only survivor of the Hellmouth disaster which killed all of your family/friends, is a vampire who you had very tentatively trusted, who had been previously (supposedly) been controlled by the First Evil, and who had also tried to rape your now dead sister/friend, and said vampire is now another highly-placed executive in the EVIL law firm.

7.) Would these facts convince you that the alleged Good Guys in charge are really Good Guys? Especially, if you find out that remnants of the Old Watchers Council are trying to attack the EVIL law firm and imprison its new CEO?

When EVERYONE ELSE you cared about dies in a situation like the one outlined above, how can you NOT believe that you were set up?

And in a situation like that, you have to take the bastards responsible out of the game, by any means available.
Review By [(Recent Donor)drdeth] • Date [29 Aug 12] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from Oxnate
Review:
I was hoping it would go at 117 and it did. Major kudos there. Very nice revenge piece.
Comments from author:
Thanks. With an uber-geek like Andrew building the bomb, and Xander to agree and encourage him, how could they NOT use the Evil Overlord list to take out an EVIL law firm? ;-)
Review By [Oxnate] • Date [29 Aug 12] • Not Rated
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