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Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from Morgomir
Great start. A self insert can be awesome every now and then. Keep up the good work.
Comments from author:
Thank you.

My next bit will be meeting with Giles... of course now my character has effectively been gagged...
Review By [Morgomir] • Date [30 May 13] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from (Current Donor)dogbertcarroll
Meh, is my general reaction to anyone who writes a story and sets it up to make as few changes as possible, which is what it's sounding like here.

Edit: That's better than I figured, but I don't see the need to handicap him since his memories will rapidly become obsolete just from the changes introduced by his being there.
Comments from author:
Sorry you feel that way...

but the intent isn't to make 'minimal changes' the intent is to handicap a MartyStu character who still intends to make those changes... just not by the implicit cheat of declaring himself omniscient.

edit: I can agree with that sentiment... and the changes will snowball over time. On the other hand, having read so many great YAHF stories, it gives the character a wonderful point of frustration that here he is a month and a half before THAT halloween and he's not allowed to stuff Xander into a superman costume or convince Buffy to dress as Jamie Lee Curtis' character from True Lies... or get Willow in a Scarlett Witch costume...

And he can't flat-out tell them what's coming... he has to work around that to warn them while fulfilling his own mission (who's ultimate secret purpose on the part of the PTBs is to remove him from the field).
Review By [(Current Donor)dogbertcarroll] • Date [25 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from DarthTenebrus
So ya gotta leave Helloween alone, huh? Don't blame you for being pissed, I'd feel the same way myself.

As for the age thing, hey, just about to turn 39 myself, so you're not so much farther along than me...
Comments from author:
Well... there's leaving it alone and leaving it alone... ;)
Review By [DarthTenebrus] • Date [24 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from fanreaderonetwo
As to saving Jenny Calendar, how about "arranging" for her not to be available when Angelus comes to kill her?
Decoy her out of town for a day or two, or maybe slip her something so she spends the night in the ER throwing up instead of at home?

Of course then maybe Angelus kills Buffy's mother instead.......

Remember that Murphy Rules!!!!!
Comments from author:
Yeah... Murphy's not a very nice entity...

Yeah... gotta figure out how to beat, prevent or circumvent sado-deadboy... joy
Review By [fanreaderonetwo] • Date [24 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from WCSII
So the question is, which truth, and how far can ... er, what's this character's name again? Anyways, how far they can tell the truth.

As for Halloween, simple, dress up as a fan of the show, and add a quirk that lets said fan know the person they've 'possessed' predicament and find a way to lay down all that they know and leave it for the scoobies to find. That or take advantage of Halloween and ask Ethan to load up a magic user character with a combat specialist and thoroughly soak them down to insure they leave something better than a slowly fading impression behind. Because, short of Dr. Fate, or Dr. Strange... that's probably about as god-modded as the PtBs are going to let their newest gopher to upgrade... unless you can tool that from some comp game that allows leveling up (even after the spell) and loading him with the necessities to learn and 'grow' as it becomes possible. ... I've got some ideas that I can send you about costume possibilities if you want. Well, vague ideas anyways.

(edit) you just said that current events are a loophole. Right? So, Buffy's sweet sixteen, and the next morning announce to the group "By the way, the Gypsy curse on Angelus's soul can be broken by a moment of pure happiness, so... yeah, be wary of Angelus knocking on your door now." As for not telling "how" you/they/he/it knows... Pull a Doyle/Cordelia. Pretend to be a seer.
Comments from author:
Current events are not a loophole...

The loophole is that I can trick the others into looking for and finding the information they need... whether I'm successful or not though...

Edit: Character Name - Max

As to the costumes... I do want to avoid the 'superhero' angle since the show did not include any of them... even on display in the shop... I had thoughts of pulling a Xander and going as a soldier, specifically Jack O'Neill... and then getting slammed even worse...(mainly because I'm familiar with Stargate... If I thought I could get away with doing John Clark from Rainbow Six I'd consider it, but I wouldn't know where to come up with patches... whereas SGC patches can be picked up at almost any Science Fiction convention.)
Review By [WCSII] • Date [24 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from Shadowcade
Ok, so as a rule, no future event spoilage. You can try to make like a Dumbledore and do a little back seat manipulation to hopefully making bad events go better but you can't tell them 'shasta' happened.

That sound about right?

What about current events but they didn't know. such as... Kendra been called. It was after Halloween she showed up right? Soo a minor loophole. It's a current event, she has been called for a while. The watcher douche bags just never bothered to tell Giles.
Comments from author:
Yeah, pretty much... though there might be a loophole or two to jump through...

Big thing though was to make sure that my character couldn't MarySue/MartyStu his way through the story...

As most can guess, the first save assigned is Jenny Calendar... and how the heck am I supposed to do that... either I prevent Angelus... Kill Angelus... or Stop Angelus... Not my idea of a fun time...

As to situations such as you are referring too, I can hint that it would be a good idea to contact certain other watchers... but I couldn't tell Giles why they should be contacted...

Then there is Halloween to consider... ;)
Review By [Shadowcade] • Date [23 May 13] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The Chewtoy Arrives" from WCSII
... eh, good enough start. Now we just wait to see if a.) you'll actually keep writing this till you finish (like sooooooooooooooooooooo many others wouldn't. >_< ) and b.) just how fast can you write.
Comments from author:

I don't really write fast... actually, when inspired I do, but sometimes inspiriation is somewhat separated from chapter to chapter.

I do have the next chapter's start mapped out in my head, but I'm not sure yet where it is going, and how far...

And good news for finishing things of mine... The last chapter of my story 'Infinity Box' is in the hands of the beta. =D
Review By [WCSII] • Date [21 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The Chewtoy Arrives" from desartartt
good start, everyone puts themselves into a story, it just takes one with writing tallent to get a good start on actually putting it down on "paper".
Comments from author:
*nods* Thank you Desartartt.

Putting this on 'paper' wasn't the problem for me... daring to release it out into the world knowing it was a GSI... that was a problem =D

I've been making excellent headway this weekend on a number of writing projects. If things work out and I finish 'Infinity Box' like I'm aiming to, then my next project is another chapter of this work...
Review By [desartartt] • Date [19 May 13] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The Chewtoy Arrives" from DarthTenebrus
Well, hell. I honestly hadn't thought about writing a story on this site where the AUTHOR is the main character...but since I haven't seen any rule against it, I must wonder how many others will give in to temptation and write one of their own...

Yessssss....should be interesting to say the least. I know I'll be tracking this one and starting one for myself soon, provided I can work it in...

Damn shame though, as I have so many works still unfinished. I may have to sacrifice one to make time for this...

Comments from author:
LOL! I actually chalk this up under the heading of 'guilty pleasures'. Namely that the muse gave in to the temptation to write such a beast, and then someone else telling me that it was interesting enough to put out there!

Thanks for the feedback DT!
Review By [DarthTenebrus] • Date [18 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The Chewtoy Arrives" from IntheIndigo
I like this! I can't wait to read more. I have no problems with self-insert as long as they are done well.
Comments from author:
Oh, I very much agree... but it is ever so much harder when the character is you to avoid giving yourself all those advantages that make a Marysue/MartyStu.

So for every advantage there must be an equal challenge/disadvantage added to maintain balance.

Like Whistler letting me keep my Buffy DVDs but refusing to allow me to share any information from them... ;)
Review By [IntheIndigo] • Date [17 May 13] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The Chewtoy Arrives" from Shadowcade
Well, now I'm interested. Inserts are hard, some are done well, some drop kick the entertainment value into a black hole.

This is looking good to me. I look forward to it. No pressure. :p
Comments from author:

I know. I'm actually walking a fine line between comedy and drama with this one. After-all the 'me' character is a PTB chewtoy, but the gnawing is needed to offset the insanity of it...

The next chapter should be Whistler laying out the mission and limitations.
Review By [Shadowcade] • Date [17 May 13] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The Chewtoy Arrives" from DaedalusWorks
I vote for more

Comments from author:
Thanks. I'm plotting out what happens next. =D
Review By [DaedalusWorks] • Date [17 May 13] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The Chewtoy Arrives" from IAMZIPPY
great beginning cant wait for more
Comments from author:
I'm glad you're liking it! I'll see what I can do.

I'll never say never, after-all I just put a chapter together on a story I haven't had new work on in almost a year. It may not be right away but I should have something to follow! :)
Review By [IAMZIPPY] • Date [17 May 13] • Rating [10 out of 10]
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