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Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from Morgomir
Review:
Great chapter. Keep up the good work.
Review By [Morgomir] • Date [12 Jul 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from AceDreamer
Review:
First time I've seen this - nicely written.

So, is Max going to run movie sessions, at home, for Giles + Scoobies, of old and (current to 1997) films, and then...

If the Scoobies are smart they might start to figure-out things to pay attention to by how close the lightning and thunder gets. [grin]

Is commenting on 'stupid' situations in films, and how things might've been done better, enough misdirection to keep the PTBs rules-lawyers happy?

As for dealing with Angelus, embedding him in a concrete block, and feeding him an egg cup of pigs blood a day, strikes me as being reasonably civilized. Then, letting Buffy chip him free once you've inserted soul tab 'A' into corpus slot 'B'. [grin]

No chance techno pagans have rituals involving naked dancing waving fetishes (magical variety) made from punched cards and computer mag tape? The "Back Jana Up On Tape" ritual? [grin]

One might wonder what would happen to Drusilla if she fed on someone tripping on something like LSD... I guess there's not much chance she'd start telling you about next years sports results. [grin]

Please keep writing this!
Review By [AceDreamer] • Date [30 Jun 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from Snorpenbass
Review:
Hmmm. But the curse isn't something that's *going* to happen, it was performed a century ago, so it should be fair game to reveal the loophole in it...and, say, the swim coach is currently dosing his swim team with fish steroids, so that should be fair game, too. In fact, anything that has already happened or is happening should be okay, by the rules.
Review By [Snorpenbass] • Date [30 Jun 14] • Rating [6 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from raxadian
Review:
You can change what costume YOU wear, I suggest a red beret military man using the same gun trick Xander did, is not like Ethan only has one toy guy. Otherwise, get a bow and a sword from Ethan and go as Robin Hood.
Review By [raxadian] • Date [30 Jun 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from TroyGuffey
Review:
Does "you" have a nice big pile of compiled BtVS fanfiction that someone (*cough*Willow*cough*) might "accidently" read?

Also, has the author read Vathara's "Ethan Rayne's Very Bad Day"?
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2520472/1/
Mentioned because of the origin of the spell might point Giles to YAHF.

As for YAHFing, make sure Buffy includes stakes as part of her costume, and everyone has a character story. Written. In a pocket.

Tracking. Please continue.
Comments from author:
That title sounds familiar. I'll have to check if it's one I've read.

Fanfiction is something I've been debating... I mean, I'd be rather PO'd at not having access to finish reading some of the great stories here... even if I were stuck in the 'real' Buffyverse... Maybe a carrot from the PTBs for good behavior hmmm???

I'm starting to figure out what is going to happen on Halloween... and since I'm not allowed to change their costumes, I'll have to be sneaky... Of course, there is a far better than even chance that said sneakiness will bite the protagonist in the butt.
Review By [TroyGuffey] • Date [30 Jun 14] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from Difdi
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Personally, I don't mind a well-written self-insert, and this one is better than most so far. So long as it doesn't go off the rails later, you have a new reader. More please.

As for speculation about THAT Halloween, it occurs to me that so far the rules seem to have a little flex to them. He got progressively impressive thunder and lightning as he gave hints, not a direct hit from the Bolt That Ate Sunnydale. If the prohibition on meddling with Halloween has the same flexibility, I can see several angles he could work with.

(plot-related speculation in a private review to follow)
Review By [Difdi] • Date [30 Jun 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from DarthTenebrus
Review:
Nice to finally see another chapter to this; reminds me that I need to add a little more to mine. Still wanna use the 18th century American prose to write it, that's gonna be a doozy...
Comments from author:
Yeah, I've had a bit of writer's block on my ongoing stories that I've been trying to attack from various angles with limited amounts of success.
Review By [DarthTenebrus] • Date [30 Jun 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from HappyWonKinobi
Review:
Good way to bring in the Shrek reference! (Which, by the way, Shrek is Yiddish for "monster". Just so you know! :P)

I'm liking this story and would love to read more, but just a quick clarify: Has the talent show happened yet or not? You may have mentioned it earlier, but I haven't reread the story recently enough to know.

All in all, good work, good story, and I'll definitely continue reading! :)
Comments from author:
As I recall, the Talent Show was near the end season one, the events of this story are immediately prior to the beginning of season 2... Of course I have been known to be mistaken.

If that is the case, then I beg pardon and declare AU ;)
Review By [HappyWonKinobi] • Date [30 Jun 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hook, Line and Stinker!" from kyro
Review:
well let see Soldier Xan on Halloween I guess since your trying to stay away from the Superhero guess that means Captain America out along with a "Nicer/mellow" version of Khan or one of the other male augments or his rip off Alec from Dark Angel granted one the Main Char from the Assassins creed games might work.James bond also works here

Can we have Willow dress as something that make her think ground her a little to help with her "I don't need to listen because Im smarter then you" with anything she's trying to learn especially magic

still good luck trying to find a loophole can't wait for more
Review By [kyro] • Date [29 Jun 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from Morgomir
Review:
Great start. A self insert can be awesome every now and then. Keep up the good work.
Comments from author:
Thank you.

My next bit will be meeting with Giles... of course now my character has effectively been gagged...
Review By [Morgomir] • Date [30 May 13] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from (Current Donor)dogbertcarroll
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Meh, is my general reaction to anyone who writes a story and sets it up to make as few changes as possible, which is what it's sounding like here.

Edit: That's better than I figured, but I don't see the need to handicap him since his memories will rapidly become obsolete just from the changes introduced by his being there.
Comments from author:
Sorry you feel that way...

but the intent isn't to make 'minimal changes' the intent is to handicap a MartyStu character who still intends to make those changes... just not by the implicit cheat of declaring himself omniscient.

edit: I can agree with that sentiment... and the changes will snowball over time. On the other hand, having read so many great YAHF stories, it gives the character a wonderful point of frustration that here he is a month and a half before THAT halloween and he's not allowed to stuff Xander into a superman costume or convince Buffy to dress as Jamie Lee Curtis' character from True Lies... or get Willow in a Scarlett Witch costume...

And he can't flat-out tell them what's coming... he has to work around that to warn them while fulfilling his own mission (who's ultimate secret purpose on the part of the PTBs is to remove him from the field).
Review By [(Current Donor)dogbertcarroll] • Date [25 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from DarthTenebrus
Review:
So ya gotta leave Helloween alone, huh? Don't blame you for being pissed, I'd feel the same way myself.

As for the age thing, hey, just about to turn 39 myself, so you're not so much farther along than me...
Comments from author:
Well... there's leaving it alone and leaving it alone... ;)
Review By [DarthTenebrus] • Date [24 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from fanreaderonetwo
Review:
As to saving Jenny Calendar, how about "arranging" for her not to be available when Angelus comes to kill her?
Decoy her out of town for a day or two, or maybe slip her something so she spends the night in the ER throwing up instead of at home?

Of course then maybe Angelus kills Buffy's mother instead.......

Remember that Murphy Rules!!!!!
Comments from author:
Yeah... Murphy's not a very nice entity...

Yeah... gotta figure out how to beat, prevent or circumvent sado-deadboy... joy
Review By [fanreaderonetwo] • Date [24 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from WCSII
Review:
So the question is, which truth, and how far can ... er, what's this character's name again? Anyways, how far they can tell the truth.

As for Halloween, simple, dress up as a fan of the show, and add a quirk that lets said fan know the person they've 'possessed' predicament and find a way to lay down all that they know and leave it for the scoobies to find. That or take advantage of Halloween and ask Ethan to load up a magic user character with a combat specialist and thoroughly soak them down to insure they leave something better than a slowly fading impression behind. Because, short of Dr. Fate, or Dr. Strange... that's probably about as god-modded as the PtBs are going to let their newest gopher to upgrade... unless you can tool that from some comp game that allows leveling up (even after the spell) and loading him with the necessities to learn and 'grow' as it becomes possible. ... I've got some ideas that I can send you about costume possibilities if you want. Well, vague ideas anyways.

(edit) you just said that current events are a loophole. Right? So, Buffy's sweet sixteen, and the next morning announce to the group "By the way, the Gypsy curse on Angelus's soul can be broken by a moment of pure happiness, so... yeah, be wary of Angelus knocking on your door now." As for not telling "how" you/they/he/it knows... Pull a Doyle/Cordelia. Pretend to be a seer.
Comments from author:
Current events are not a loophole...

The loophole is that I can trick the others into looking for and finding the information they need... whether I'm successful or not though...

Edit: Character Name - Max

As to the costumes... I do want to avoid the 'superhero' angle since the show did not include any of them... even on display in the shop... I had thoughts of pulling a Xander and going as a soldier, specifically Jack O'Neill... and then getting slammed even worse...(mainly because I'm familiar with Stargate... If I thought I could get away with doing John Clark from Rainbow Six I'd consider it, but I wouldn't know where to come up with patches... whereas SGC patches can be picked up at almost any Science Fiction convention.)
Review By [WCSII] • Date [24 May 13] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Getting Gnawed" from Shadowcade
Review:
Ok, so as a rule, no future event spoilage. You can try to make like a Dumbledore and do a little back seat manipulation to hopefully making bad events go better but you can't tell them 'shasta' happened.

That sound about right?

What about current events but they didn't know. such as... Kendra been called. It was after Halloween she showed up right? Soo a minor loophole. It's a current event, she has been called for a while. The watcher douche bags just never bothered to tell Giles.
Comments from author:
Yeah, pretty much... though there might be a loophole or two to jump through...

Big thing though was to make sure that my character couldn't MarySue/MartyStu his way through the story...

As most can guess, the first save assigned is Jenny Calendar... and how the heck am I supposed to do that... either I prevent Angelus... Kill Angelus... or Stop Angelus... Not my idea of a fun time...

As to situations such as you are referring too, I can hint that it would be a good idea to contact certain other watchers... but I couldn't tell Giles why they should be contacted...

Then there is Halloween to consider... ;)
Review By [Shadowcade] • Date [23 May 13] • Rating [9 out of 10]
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