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Review of chapter "Chapter 11" from orgasmo
I hope this next trade doesn't end up so obviously lopsided in favor the SGC. I mean, the Scoobs got practically nothing out of that trade (the tech of the computer is nearly a millennium out of date and all the art and stuff is easily found and analyzed via the tech they currently have). I also don't understand, given how security conscious the Scoobies are trying to show themselves to be, they haven't used their absurdly more advanced tech to try to find out what the SGC knows about them (the language, for example) or at least listen in on the communications as they were coming to meet them.

Quite frankly, I don't understand the purpose of continuing to trade in the first place, since they're already as wealthy as they want to be with their handy-dandy, hack-anything computers and countless bad people to steal from. I understand the first trade, since they already agreed to meet and didn't give away much of value, but to get something like the Goa'uld guns, they'll have to actually give up important items or weapons for something that will probably be less than or equally as effective as what they already have (not to mention the absurdity of asking for "something pretty").

All that aside, I really do want to see more of this fic. I really liked your Shadow fic as well, plus it seemed that most of the fics from the Ship of the Line challenge start out interesting and then fizzle out as the excitement of the author does. I just hope that this continues in a sensible fashion rather than the SGC getting all sorts of tech for basically no cost.
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Thank you for that comment!
I'll try to make sure that their reasons for the second trade, or any further trades are clear in the story. I'm glad you are enjoying it.
Review By [orgasmo] • Date [11 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 11" from Toraneko
Willow wanted to go to Amsterdam? considering nearly the only things you hear about it are sex stories, or how you can buy weed at coffee shops... wow... kinky...
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Now you just have to wonder if the kinkiness came from Willow or her alter ego Freya who had to bribed with caramel sauce? lol
Review By [Toraneko] • Date [8 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 11" from JamesBrown
in reference to: technical correction

I commented on this in a Star Trek crossover once.
while you can Certainly argue the word 'orbit',
if you have the right kind of drive and enough power
you can hold geostationary position at any altitude
you want whether it's 10 feet or a million miles.
you just have to be able to circle the earth in 24 hours,
which is free at 22,236 mi - or zero.
and can only truly be maintained at the equator.
any other altitude or latitude up or down is going to cost you-
probably a lot.
but hey, if you got the power :)

but regardless of my nitpicking of the nitpicking,
(I am sometimes pedantic to the point of idiocy)
I am quite enjoying this tribute to known space.
I've always been fond of Larry Niven's work.
I'm not sure what material you're planning that the
Hawaiian shirts will be made of, impact armor maybe?
but hopefully Daniel wins his bet
and that Sam and Jack's minds are suitably blown :)

and there are quite a few mind blowing items in known space
monofilament, stasis generator, antigravity, auto docs, flashlight laser.
unfortunately a number of the best, like the nuclear suppressor,
Twing, Scrith and the Softener are pak and they wouldn't have acquired
those until after they explored the ringworld,
and you seem to have set them at the beginning of the books rather than the end.

hopefully you keep enjoying writing this story and give us many many chapters :)
thank you very much for your work.
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Thank you for the comments! I'm glad you are enjoying it.
Review By [JamesBrown] • Date [8 Apr 14] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter 11" from draconis
Thanks for the update. It's been a good read.

I think someone in the team should soon realize just how much even "minor" advanced tech could affect earth, and just how valuable the dye and application technology, and the fabric tech really are to 'the earthlings'. Those "trivial" things alone could radically transform earth textile and military industries and would be likely worth hundreds of billions of dollars. With an exclusive capability (at least for awhile), such could even cause massive geo-political/socio-economical changes by reclaiming fabric/clothing manufacture back to the US from China and other low-cost suppliers.

It's almost "Prime Directive" level stuff. By taking actions intended to help earth, they could unintentionally cause massive problems.

Technical correction:
In 11 you stated ' "We'll head to a geostationary orbit over Sunnydale and wait for them to call or until they've had time to at least settle in and talk to Giles." The others agreed and the invisible ship moved to a position some thirty thousand feet over Sunnydale, California." ' A geostationary orbit would be tens of thousands of MILES above the earth's surface, not 30K FEET.
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Sorry! That typo was changed. I meant MILES when I typed FEET. It's been changed to 23,000 miles.
Review By [draconis] • Date [7 Apr 14] • Rating [7 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter 11" from starwolf
if i remember my Niven, impact armor, cloth that wears like a t-shirt till shot, then becomes hard like steel could make a good trade item. good chapter, thanks
Review By [starwolf] • Date [7 Apr 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from fanreaderonetwo
Mention has been made of using data on hardware and tech developments in the Lair's database as trade goods, a very good idea.

Be sure and include such "trivia" as the formulas of _very_ effective remedies for hangovers and various recreational drugs, along with the formula of some of the more harmless drugs.
I wonder what just the hangover remedy alone would be worth on the open market, both per dose and the formula and production information.

Then of course you might blackmail the drug cartels into paying to keep the tasp and the design for "wirehead" brain implants (the Droud) off the market.
Recalling Niven's mention of the Droud killing off chemical drug addiction.... grin

And then there is Boosterspice....

from the
Encyclopedia of Known Space
Gun-like object which induces a jolt in the pleasure centers of the brain for less than a second, similar in effect to a Droud. Puppeteers have developed a version with an effect that can last approximately 10 seconds.

Term used for a person who has been set up to use a Droud, and is typically an addict.

Transformer that provides electrical current directly to the pleasure centers of the brain. The current becomes highly addictive within seconds.

Drug used to halt the aging process, and may have a relationship to Tree-of-Life.
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Thank you for your comments! I hope you continue to enjoy the story!
Review By [fanreaderonetwo] • Date [7 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 11" from Bobboky
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Review By [Bobboky] • Date [6 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 11" from CageFire
Nice to see a new chapter. Keep up the nice work. :)
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Review By [CageFire] • Date [6 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 11" from KrisB
So far so good. I'm abit sad that your Sunnydale effect basically wiped them out of local memory though. I'm almost amazed that Giles recalls or could match them. That actually brings to mind that the local death rate might be lower while actually having a higher local magical user count. If anyone local gets into anything magical via accidents or what not, they become erased and dead. They don't actually, but after spending a week and failing trying to fit aback into their lives most would likely leave town. If the effect basically lets them blend back into the surrounding human population as well. It would be hard to trace mainly because they'd likely pick up new IDs and such.

Oh, that's not really anything central the story. I'm curious on just how long the ship can go by itself and what they need to create a supply depot/base in the system. I could see them trading mostly in samples and data. That's far cheaper to move around and also the rewards are far greater.

Depending on just how massive their DB are, they could drastically change Earth with booster spice, transfer booths, autodocs, and autochefs.

I want them to leave Earth and scout around locally on what's in the DB. Well, that or cross reference what they can get from SG for star charts and various trading partners. I think the Midas will have much more luck at trading tech than SGC ever did. They aren't demanding military weapons, but the civy stuff has vast military potential.

I actually don't really need to see if you dropped the known space aliens into the local region. SGC really couldn't survive them without major plot shields. The Known space humans had hundreds of years of colonizing the system and also like two dozen or so colony worlds when they were first invaded by a slightly more tech advanced species. They were given hyperdrives that where just fast enough to let them clean up though.

Known space has some very interesting and odd tech. One of the lesser techs that they could easily traded to Earth was the sleeping plates. If I recall properly 8-10 minutes under them, gave you 8-10 hours worth of mental sleep/recovery. You still needed to physically rest, but mentally it gave them damn near another 8 hours in the day. Things like that are just difficult to put a price on.
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Thank you for comment! I don't remember the sleeping plates doing that but I'll check. Your other ideas are good although they may or may not want to change Earth that much. I do hope you enjoy future chapters just as much as you seem to have enjoyed this one.
Review By [KrisB] • Date [6 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 7" from Difdi
> "Yeah, but they can already make artificial gems and they don't sell for anywhere close to the
> same amount of money.

The reason for that is the natural gem cartels got laws passed requiring all synthetic gems to be micro-stamped with writing declaring their manufactured nature. Without that stamping, you can't tellsynthetic from natural except that synthetic tends to be lawless and natural rarely is. If you deliberately created flaws in synthetic gems, nobody on Earth would be able to tell the difference.

This could actually trip up Xander & company in the long run -- sell some gems, then later it comes out that they're synthetic...and not stamped. The US legal system does not care what the law is where you come from or whether doing a given thing is legal in the place you did it. If you are standing in a US courtroom, that court can convict you even if the 'crime' you committed wasn't committed within the court's jurisdiction.
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I'll keep that in mind.
Review By [Difdi] • Date [20 Mar 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 10" from JamesBrown
I am really looking forward to the next couple of trading sessions- because
when they get around to discussing the room temperature superconductors
and the Monomolecular wire,Sam is practically going to have a heart attack.
those two items alone are of critical military importance in the fight against
the goa'uld, and the civilian applications alone are worth billions.
and if they bring out the slaver stasis generator,
her brain is going to need a complete reboot.
because for them that little toy is -literally- beyond price.
although if they do THAT, SOMEbody is eventually going to do a double take
and say- Wwwait a minute... has anyone else here ever read Niven's Ringworld?

keep up the good work, and keep posting.
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I am not going to have it be fiction in this alternate universe. Otherwise somebody would recognize it and that would cause all sorts of speculation and tangents I don't want to deal with in this story. Not to mention fear of the Teela Brown luck and puppeteer manipulation.
Review By [JamesBrown] • Date [14 Mar 14] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter 10" from starwolf
I'd bet Cordy thinks though all the accepts of negations before the next meeting is set up.
nice chapter, thanks
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Review By [starwolf] • Date [13 Mar 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter 10" from CageFire
Another good chapter, keep up the nice work. :)
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Review By [CageFire] • Date [13 Mar 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 10" from HMaxMarius
Senator Robert Kinsey stormed around the SGC Briefing room, his arms flailing and flying. "MAKEUP! CLOTHING! I sincerely hope, Colonel Carter, that the /spa day/ the two of you /must/ have arranged is going to be on /her/ dime, because when I'm done you won't be able to afford used seventies underwear from the Salvation Army TRASHBIN!"

Imagining Kinsey's reaction to what the crew of the LYING BASTARD offered... Priceless! =D

edit: Be my guest! =D
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You are right about his reaction. Especially since his NID goon squad ended up in Alaska freezing their cojones off.
I'm not sure I'll put that in the next chapter but I may, if you don't mind, steal the spa day idea. Cordelia would love it!

EDIT: Thank you! Now I just need a good way to include it...
Review By [HMaxMarius] • Date [13 Mar 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter 10" from JamesBrown
this was only a preliminary meeting to gain trust, senator,
nevertheless 'make up and clothing' using completely novel
chemistry and properties may be worth millions
if we can analyze and duplicate them,
and hopefully lead to trade in much more sophisticated technology.
IF we can prove that we are trustworthy.
OR we can try something sneaky, they leave, and we get nothing,
instead of potentially years of trade.....Sir
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You are correct of course! Both the dye itself and the applicator could be quite valuable if they could be reverse engineered. I'm sure Kinsey will try to bluster that they flubbed the contact anyway in one of his attempts to gain control but it won't succeed and probably won't get "screen time". It might get a mention or two though since it'll probably happen.
Review By [JamesBrown] • Date [13 Mar 14] • Rating [7 out of 10]
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