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Review of chapter "What Flavor Is Blue?" from Rich
First of all, I'm enjoying the story. I like the characters and I think you've got the attitudes right.

Regarding the attitude of people like Jack, and especially Carter, towards magic - of COURSE they don't believe in it. They already know how the universe works (again, especially Carter), and to accept that magic is real would contradict decades of education and experience. Confronted with new information, people will naturally try to fit it in with the knowledge they already have.

On the "humans vs. vamps" question, my two cents is that speed and strength are both factors, but a key fact is that vamps are almost invulnerable to most attacks. If you hit the heart with your stake, or the neck with your blade, you win; anything else you can do is probably a waste of energy. The vampire, OTOH, can cripple you with a single blow, no matter where it lands. Only the most skilled humans would have a chance in that situation, unless they were armed with a weapon that does a massive amount of damage, like an axe.
Review By [Rich] • Date [2 Apr 14] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The Game's Afoot" from fanreaderonetwo
"They are not idiots, just adamant in their beliefs. I think once they have been smacked upside the head with a trout, not from the Colonel's pond since it has no fish, they will come around somewhat. I don't think it will ever be possible to convince Major Carter that there is not a scientific/technological "

The joke about the magic vs tech clash is _maybe_ shown in DianeCastle's "Xander and Yet ANOTHER Demon" in chapter 33 when she has Willow giving Carter a detailed lecture on how magic and technology are actually related and completely blowing Carter's mind.

Wondering whether the sword is actually self-defending or if Raven activated a "booby-trap" spell on it.
Review By [fanreaderonetwo] • Date [2 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "What Flavor Is Blue?" from JamesBrown
while I will agree that from OUR perspective
Sam and Jack are being about as thick as a cinderblock,
I'm not sure where some of the apparent hate in some of
the reviews is coming from.

People seem to forget that in real life, for an awful lot of people
some level of Sunnydale syndrome is the NORM not the exception.
when exposed to something completely at odds with their
ingrained worldview the normal reaction is to REJECT it...frequently violently.

and I'm not talking just about mundane's here either.
//anyone who has ever listened to a couple of fans at a con
arguing over whether Star Trek or Star Wars or some other
conflicting fandoms is superior
knows some people will hold on to their prejudices
almost with their dying breath regardless of their supposed intellects//

and these are not just some people off the street
being shown something amazing.
These are dedicated soldiers who have spent
the last several years of their lives fighting evil creatures
who have enslaved and murdered for thousands of years
by making what -appears to them- to be essentially the same
sort of claims the slayers are making.
and they know -with absolute certainty- that the Goa'uld are liars,
and that all their supposed great power is fake.

so given their normal world view I don't think they're handling it
THAT badly, so I'm giving them at -least- another chapter or two
before I throw up my hands and declare them complete idiots.

in any case, I am actually enjoying this story and hope
see many updates to come.
(And here's hoping you'll take the idiot ball away from the Col.and the Maj.)
Comments from author:
They are not idiots, just adamant in their beliefs. I think once they have been smacked upside the head with a trout, not from the Colonel's pond since it has no fish, they will come around somewhat. I don't think it will ever be possible to convince Major Carter that there is not a scientific/technological explanation for magic but she will have to admit it works.
Review By [JamesBrown] • Date [2 Apr 14] • Rating [7 out of 10]
Review of chapter "What Flavor Is Blue?" from mendal
Actually graduation would have been a complete slaughter except that the mayor told his minions to just corral everyone so HE could devour them. Plus most vampires have a tendency to play with their food because they KNOW that humans are helpless against them, which is something that hunters can use against them.
Review By [mendal] • Date [2 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "What Flavor Is Blue?" from burmafrdnow
It is really hard for all too many authors to get hand to hand fight scenes that are both realistic and interesting. I frankly do not try very hard and do not descriptive because I know I suck at them.

One huge problem all too many have (and the show and Joss stupidly encouraged this) is that humans can not fight vampires hand to hand. It is not so much their huge advantage in strength or even their ability to take massive damage and keep coming- it is their quickness. How can you fight something that can counter your move before you even finish it or barely start it? all the martial arts in the world are no use when you are less than a third or maybe even only a quarter as fast as your opponent who is also immensely stronger. Cordyfan in Someone Else's Mess was very good at making this clear-Buffy in teaching some SGC and Marines the reality of fighting vamps showed that trying to get up close and personal was a death wish.

To be blunt graduation should have been a complete slaughter; and the scoobies should have been dead a hundred times.

Yes you can shoot a crossbow at a vampire who is stupid enough to stand still for you. But that is it. Otherwise they move so fast you do not have a hope in hell to hit them.

And once they get close you are dead. your neck is snapped or your neck is torn out before you even blink they are that fast.

You did a good job with the fight- the Slayer toned it down carefully and Tealc is stronger and faster then any normal human. Not as fast or as strong as a fledgling but not THAT far - Teal'c MIGHT be able to fight a fledge and win especially given how instinct driven and raw they are. But any vamp with more than a few years would rather easily kill him unless he got really stupid- which for a vamp happens quite often so its not a real long shot.
Comments from author:
I think a well trained and experienced human could probably take a fledgling but it would be dicey. If humans could routinely take down vampires there never would have been a need for the Shadow Men to create the Slayer in the first place. Shooting a vampire with a crossbow or even regular bow would only work as long as you have some element of surprise on your side I've always felt that the Slayer's main advantage was their speed and situational awareness, something that was never really explored to any real degree in the show.

Thank you for your comments on the fight, she needed to show the SGC what a Slayer could do but without overdoing it. She could have taken Teal'c out quickly but that would have been seen as a fluke, she got lucky. But she was also faced with the problem that if she went too hard on Teal'c that it would alienate and frighten the SGC and made things even worse.
Review By [burmafrdnow] • Date [1 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "What Flavor Is Blue?" from Thedruid

What is happening back at the crime scene? As far as the local police can see, both teams of spooks have disappeared.
Comments from author:
As to what's happening back at the crime scene I am planning a new story arc to deal with that and the aftermath. You know that Holmes would never give up on a mystery even if he has to drop it for a while he will always come back to it.
Review By [Thedruid] • Date [1 Apr 14] • Rating [5 out of 10]
Review of chapter "What Flavor Is Blue?" from cmdruhura
Sam, have you ever heard that 'curiosity killed the cat' and that is stayed dead when that curiosity wasn't satisfied?
Review By [cmdruhura] • Date [1 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "What Flavor Is Blue?" from WolfWriter
Sam is an idiot. Evidently the possibility of a booby trapped room never occurred to her. Her stupidity is now reaching an all time high.

What made her think she could get away with doing such a thing? Or that there wouldn't be any protective measures in place?

Stupid woman.

She deserves to be hexed with baldness, buck teeth the size of a mastodon, monster sized whiteheads, bad breath and armpits hairier than a Wookie's.
Comments from author:
In Sam's defense it's rare, if ever, you would find a personal weapon, causally tossed on a bed in the SGC's VIP area to be booby-trapped. And not believing in magic she's not going to think that a magic sword might take offense if someone other than its owner messed with it.
Review By [WolfWriter] • Date [1 Apr 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "I'm Sorry" from FireWolfe
I like the occ a lot. This is an interesting twist on theme. I look forward to seeing where it will go.
Review By [FireWolfe] • Date [25 Mar 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "I'm Sorry" from burmafrdnow
Jack and Sam need to be worked now and then to keep their arrogance (which is pretty big) under control.

Sam has violated the Scientist's Creed way too often and allowed to get away with it. Which is to NOT have a closed mind no matter how often you THINK you have seen the same thing.

Jack is a case of his nature and his history. With what happened to Charlie added to the number of child soldiers he had to have seen in his years in Spec Ops he is ALWAYS going to have a problem there.

30,000 years is a good figure since that is about when we have real signs that humanity as you put it was no longer a curiosity but began to show a real presence. That neatly dovetails with the Slayer's arrival which also undoubtedly started people fighting back as well.

The real interesting part of that history is how the presence of vamps and demons was forgotten by the bulk of humanity fairly soon.
Comments from author:
Jack is definitely going to be somewhat subdued over this, he's just seen a tiny teenage girl easily defeat the best hand to hand fighter he knows. He's got a lot to think about now. As to Sam, I don't think she will ever truly except the possibility of magic, she will just assume it's like Clarke's Third Law and just a sufficiently advanced technology.
Review By [burmafrdnow] • Date [24 Mar 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "I'm Sorry" from Rich
A well written fight scene. Well done.
Comments from author:
Thank you. It was harder then I expected. I needed to show just what a Slayer could do but didn't want to turn Teal'c, who I like, into a messy smear on the floor.
Review By [Rich] • Date [24 Mar 14] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "What do you see?" from FireWolfe
Jack sure got snacked.
He certinly snarked
Slayers however dont just bark.
Slayers are not little players
Soon SG1 will see
That its slayers that keep the world free
Review By [FireWolfe] • Date [14 Mar 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "What do you see?" from JamesBrown
first I'm going to say, I'm liking this story
and I hope to see many, and frequent updates.
that said, I do think you're going more than a little over the top with Jack.
not in his initial response, but in his persistence in digging the hole
he's in deeper and deeper.
while his smart Alec hick act is very good it IS just an act,
you don't survive a career in black ops without being very smart
and quick on the uptake.
he actually does know when to shut up and await his time.

although given that they have spent the last several years
dealing with beings claiming divinity, and vast magical powers
who they *know* with absolute certainty are complete and utter frauds
their deeply conditioned response to any even vaguely similar claims
is likely to be to discard them automatically regardless of who is making them.
And it isn't so much that Maj. Carter is dismissing the idea of magic
out of hand, as that she has already researched such claims repeatedly
and disproved it every. single. time. so why examine something
she already *knows* is false.
you're just going to have to Gibbs slap Sam and Jack hard enough
to shake them out of their admittedly well earned *and justified* conditioning.
Danny and T on the other hand have a lot more experience
having their worldview forcibly rearranged, and are likely to be much easier to convince.

keep up the good work, and thanks.
Review By [JamesBrown] • Date [14 Mar 14] • Rating [6 out of 10]
Review of chapter "What do you see?" from theunixer
Okay on Jack's foibles.

I REALLY hope you put in Jack's reaction (because I love it so much) to the usual age of Slayer's when Called, especially the Scobbies since it's so recent (with perhaps some videos of their High School Graduation ceremony that the Initiative got since not all records would have been destroyed, the military wouldn't have totally trusted the NID) "They were KIDS! Fighting a WAR!"

I can understand your reasons for 30,000 years even if I'm not in total agreement with it, as far as when the First Slayer was Called. Oh, well. It doesn't really detract from the story for me too much.

FYI. A hill around Turkey has been found to be a man made megalithic structure and dated to around 4000 years plus. It was built upon an older structure and that one on top of even older ones. The interesting part is that the oldest has embedded soil (meaning it was put there as part of the build) dated to 22,000 BC. I hadn't heard your statement of humans forming larger groups around 30,000 years ago but it DOES fit in.

Supposedly those hollow discus shaped things (not buildable by early 1950's tech either, made via a too advanced a technology) found in Tibet around 1950 had their spirally wound dash-dot writing translated with a story on it of a world destroying cataclysm and rescue attempts to help survivors. The point is the story (if true) means that around 25,000 years ago they had Zepellins and radio, two of which survived to do the rescuing (one sent a message that a storm was damaging it and then contact was lost, for good). I have seen photos of that 25,000 year old bison skull which was apparently killed by a bullet (an arrow would have caused a different kind of hole), meaning they had firearms as well.

The supposed civilization now called Atlantis (which, yes, I do believe was real, covered in Antartica's advancing ice cap after a 2000 mile Earth Crustal Displacement put the 1/3 of Antarctica that was north of the Antartic Circle with food growable land within the Antarctic Circle) was a successor society that started from scratch and never achieved such a high level of technology. Not even chronometers (a late 18th century invention) since the surviving maps (copied from still earlier ones and so on) did not use longitude.
Comments from author:
I have a scene planned where Jack learns just how young the Slayer is when called and how short their expiration date is once called. But before then he will need to, grudgingly, accept the existence of the Slayers, vampires, demons and the supernatural. Considering Jack's attitude towards children I expect he will likely go from being pissed off at to pissed off for the Slayers.

I would like to thank everyone for their comments, good, bad or indifferent they have all given me things to think about and will hopefully help me make this and any future stories better.
Review By [theunixer] • Date [13 Mar 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "What do you see?" from theunixer
This story is starting out as something of a typical Scoobies Meets SG1 And The SGC kind of scenario.

Please keep it up! I love them. There can never be too many.

Actually you really may have gone a little far with Jack continuing to disparage what the official reports about the ISWC say after General Hammond's admonishments. But only a little. Jack would have tempered his comments a bit. I think some of his tendency to annoy is in part an affectation of his, a strategy to accomplish things.

Jack does push the boundaries of insubordination but knows how not to cross that line. Unfortunately, you actually did have Jack cross it.

It reminds me of someone (nicknamed Tiger) my father knew in the Air Force who did the same thing and got away with it because he knew the ins and outs of the regulations and didn't (quite) go over the line. His best was saluting the base commander, asking how the commander's wife was doing, and how her boyfriend was doing as well. Also, when they had completed a major endurance mission and were greeted by a newsreel crew and a Senator, they came out of the plane in their best uniforms. Tiger came out in Bermuda shorts, a Hawaiian shirt, and a sailors cap with 'GOOK' written on it (this was the early 1950's and it wasn't politically incorrect [a term showing how bad things have gotten when we can't even make jokes about ourselves or others] then) and then proceeded to greet and shake the Senator's hand enthusiastically, with all proper deference.

You should change that 30,000 years to something much, much older. Carbon dating of recently found human remains put them at 120,000 years old meaning humanity is at a minimum 145,000, the minimum time needed for at least one body to still be recoverable out of all those who lived before. Recently found human made tools (I don't know how they figured out H. Sapians made them but they did) that have been dated to 295,000 years of age. Slayers have (by canon) been around almost as long as vampires and vampires have been around almost as long as humans. This puts the existence of Slayers as far longer than even a quarter of a million years.
Comments from author:
I may have taken him a bit over the line, just a bit but that was the way it flowed. Also the problem with skirting the line is it's very easy to slip over it on occasion especially when presented with something very frustrating or unexpected. He's about to get his world view expanded and that will hopefully temper him somewhat. I'd hate to see him brought up on charges and not be able to finish out the story.

I actually gave the 30,000 year mark some thought. Before that humanity was a rarity on earth mostly in small extended family nomadic groups. At about 30,000 years they started forming larger groups and the first hints of settlements shortly after, I credit the creation of the Slayer with that as they would discourage vampires and other demons from looking at human villages as all you can eat buffets.
Review By [theunixer] • Date [13 Mar 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
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