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Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from WCSII
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*Review removed due to complaints*
Review By [WCSII] • Date [15 Dec 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from RedCalypso
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While not a fan of Robotech, I love Ship of the Line stories. Just read this one through and I like it. Sad to see Jack thinking, as usual, that he's in command. I kind of hope to see him get slapped down. I also second the motion of NOT turning things over to the American government.
Review By [RedCalypso] • Date [9 Dec 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from DCG
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And the story shoots right down the shitter.

Well at lest that's what it felt like reading. Holy crap ever chapter before this was great and kept on getting better. This one? Bleh.

Really hoping some more SDF comes out more in the "crew" As the buffy cannon cast is assbags all around.

Now sg-1's waken up as well? Gah.. Looking forward to the next chapter in-case its more awesome. Worried it's going to be a bucket of fail as well.
Comments from author:
What exactly is the problem?

While more of the memories, knowledge and experience of the RDF/REF personal will come out in the 'crew' as time goes on its not a full personality overwrite. Some aspects of who everyone was before the spell was cast will remain and merge the imparted personality remnants.
Review By [DCG] • Date [8 Dec 14] • Rating [2 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from djhardim
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"yep yet another fic that makes the main character in the series into a worthless one. However this one is at least using another series I enjoyed so I will likely keep reading as there are not enough xovers in it. I just hate Buffy being another idiot."


The previous poster must have read a different story. Buffy went as Admiral Lisa Hayes, hardly a worthless character. Willow went as Minmei.
Review By [djhardim] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from FireWolfe
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yep yet another fic that makes the main character in the series into a worthless one. However this one is at least using another series I enjoyed so I will likely keep reading as there are not enough xovers in it. I just hate Buffy being another idiot.
Review By [FireWolfe] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Kilroy
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I am not worried about a confrontation with Jack, as much as Jack's report being used by certain elements in the U.S. government (e.g. Kinsey) or a hastily-created IOA to demand the SDF-3 be handed over to them, possibly citing the Outer Space treaty of 1967 in the IOA case. I don't see the Sunnydalers being amenable to that.
On the Sunnydaler's side, they are in dire need of crew for the vessel however.
Review By [Kilroy] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from BotticellisMuse
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Thank you so much for updating! I'm really glad you decided to veer away from the usual Halloween Chaos event story where Buffy was either a useless Lady or relegated negatively. Ive only read of less than a handfulof stories where Buffy was given the chance to realize her potential. Where she could be a meatier character.

its really good and intriguing that not only were there remnants of the costumes' personalities remained behind, but that parts of their physical appearance as well. And I'm suspecting it would contribute to a lot on how they handle things from this point on. Would they kowtow to the US government's high handed demands (im quite sure of that esp asKinsey's working nonstop in the background). Would Buffy hand Jack his ass for being hostile to the very people who saved them from Klorel's ship? Who else were affected and changed by the spell? Would they be cooperative with the earth's governments' up to a limited point? How would Buffy handle the Watcher's Council and Giles now that she's got a much wider responsibility galaxy-wise? How would Giles and Joyce cope with this event?

Thanks too for including Amy and Jono. Ive really loved their character because they have so much potential.

Its good that Xander would be forced to own up to what happened during his hyena possession. When i watched that attempted rape and his and Giles collusion to keep it under the rug and live in denial, ive wanted to smack their heads together. And to thinkl Xander was all too eager to tell on Spike's transgression against Buffy in the bathroom when he himself did that and much worse too! The bathroom incident was the culmination of a violent and destructive relationship. The other attempt was uncalled for since Buffy showed no come-on to the perpetrator. Worse was how it was complicitly buried and forgotten as if everything alright with the world! At least the vampire chose to go overseas to help change himself because he was so horrified with what he nearly did to Biffy. Xander really was a hypocrite conveniently forgetting his standards and sanctimonious self if the occasion suits him. This time though he would need to adjust to Rick's maturity.

I think instead of worrying about how Buffy and Willow would react to his caring for his former packmates, he should be worried how upset the 2 girls would be. To know that not only did he remember everything he did under his hyena possession, but that he chose to hide it and even rope in Giles to help him. That's another point of contention if Buffy decides to make a fuss and bring Giles to task. The watcher should have known better than to tolerate such blatant disrespect, especially with the attempted rape. Hmmm Buffy might decide to let the two of them squirm and be creative to get out of that mishap and explain themselves. Ooh Im really looking forward to that!

On a lighter note, yay for Buffy finally getting tall :)

I hope you find lots more inspiration so that you would write and write and update soon! Thanks again for this and for sharing this with us!
Review By [BotticellisMuse] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from iamjmph
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pretty good chap. Hopefully someone stands up to Jack. I mean you have what 2 people with memories of being Admirals, and others of varying ranks. I've seen a few too many of these that basically give in to earths demands to let the american military take over(staff the ship with 10-100x the number of changed people).

Ohh and I really hope Lisa's memories give Buff enough maturity to realize dating a walking corpse is a bad idea... id prefer xander/buffy, xander/harem.... but so long a Buffy's brains stop melting out her ass when angel is involved im ok...

anyways, Thanks for writing, and for sharing. I am enjoying this story very much. Don't let neg reviews get you down, and i just wanna say, dont feel like you need to change YOUR story for anyone. Our opinions only matter to the plot when you ask for them.
Review By [iamjmph] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Rating [7 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Omegaprime
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Well, it looks like the cat will be out of the bag soon and the people of Earth will (probably) have the biggest panic attack in recorded history.

It is interesting to see who did dress up as who and see that they retained the echo's of the people they dressed up as.

But who was in that escape ship?

Keep up the good work.
Review By [Omegaprime] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Xovervore
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I started reading this today, and it is a pleasant surprise. All too often the formula for Xander-centered YAHFs is:
1. Xander is Super-Xander
2. Buffy is still Lady Useless
3. Bash Buffy
4. The First Rule of Spite Club is Bash Buffy

This is something else, and a nice adaptation of Robotech - I watched a few seasons of this back in the 1990s.
I will be looking forward to your next chapter of this story, when they reply to Jack's question, and what follows on from there with the SGC exposed to public view.
Comments from author:
Thanks I'm glad you like it.

I am aware of the normal mould for these things, hence why I choose to break it somewhat. Adds a breath of fresh air I think to the YAHF troupe.
Review By [Xovervore] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from fanreaderonetwo
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"Professionally because there was no way that the destruction of the Goa’uld warships – though something to be welcomed as it meant they were safe from orbital annihilation, at least for now – could have been missed. Both the brilliant yellow-white meters thick lances of the energy beams and the flash of the one ships detonation would have been clearly visible from the surface over much of the hemisphere. Which meant that the secret about aliens being real, and hostile to life on Earth, was well and truly out now. There couldn’t really be any chance of putting that particular genie back in the bottle."

*****

The canon explosion of the Gatebusters (gigaton range nukes) missiles and the destruction of the two ships is _merely_ the FIRST incident (among many) that should have, at minimum, had questions asked by scientists and militaries in every major country on the planet. Recalling all the later "bright lights in the sky", temporal and gravitic anomalies, bizarre epidemics, weird security alerts, etc that should have had newsies, scientists, spies and demonstrators camped outside the Mountain and the Whitehouse demanding to know what was going on.

Despite knowing that somehow keeping the Gate and the alien threat secret was required by the TV show's premise, it always bugged me.
Comments from author:
In canon I don't believe that the 'Goa'uld Buster' nukes actually detonated, or rather the warheads didn't but the initiating charge did, when they hit the then unanticipated Goa'uld shields is far too small. Its likely the minor emp caused by the blasts was the result of the raw naquada releasing an energy pulse as it disintegrated against the energy barriers around both ships.

And your right the fact that they always were able to keep the Gate secret really bugged me as well. Oh I liked the show but there is no way the US Military would be able to hide such activity from the other nations for very long, not when they do things like destroy alien ships in orbit and deploy spacegoing warships.
Review By [fanreaderonetwo] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from ReneeMc
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Enjoying this a lot. Looking forward to more chapters. Best casting decision in a robotech crossover so far: Willow as Minmei. That's a change of pace that ought to shake things up even before the merged personality echoes are accounted for. :)

Regarding the echoes and any theoretically OOC action, I think you've taken the right tack. You made it clear the echoes remain. Between that and the physical changes, which should have most of them safely out of the teenage hormonal surge zone now, it should only be expected that they are going to react in new ways. Anyone giving you crap over it isn't thinking things through.

Thanks for entertaining us. Keep up the good work!
Comments from author:
Thanks.

Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking as the echoes and changes into being adults has really done in the angst and melodrama producing teenage hormone surges. With the echoes of their halloween selves personalities and their memories in their heads as well as inheriting their skills - for example Oz will now be lethal behind the controls of a veritech fighter, lethal for the enemy that is - it was bound in my view to make them behave differently and react differently to before.
Review By [ReneeMc] • Date [6 Dec 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Valy
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Like this last chapter. It will be interesting to see what all of them do now. Suddenly trust into adult bodies with strange memories would be strange enough but to suddenly have leadership responsibilities trust onto them is mind boggling. thank you for this latest chapter and lookign forward to the next one.
Review By [Valy] • Date [5 Dec 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from DieselDriver
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Eggggcellent. heh, had to read the whole thing over again to get back to what was going on. I hope the next update is much quicker.
Review By [DieselDriver] • Date [5 Dec 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Raider
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well written, perfect reactions and an awesome intro.
Review By [Raider] • Date [5 Dec 14] • Rating [10 out of 10]
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