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Review of chapter "The World to Come" from Meneldur
Review:
Very good. Overly simplified, of course, but still excellent, both as an explanation for Willow's actions and as a theological discussion into the world. Xander's last line was excellent, and a perfect ending.
Review By [Meneldur] • Date [25 Dec 11] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from BarbarossaRotbart
Review:
This is a beautiful story, which gives us much more insight into Willow than the episodes of the show which rarely deal with Willow being jewish.
Review By [BarbarossaRotbart] • Date [8 Oct 09] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from loyaleskamoe
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Quality. I'm not too sure I liked the characterizations of Xander and Buffy -To me, she seemed a little too angry for someone struggling to feel anything, and Xander was just plain simple- but I do love the fact that you actually remembered Willow is Jewish, with all that it intailed. She'd had a Bat Mitzvah, the cross needed to keep Angelus of her house was nailed behind a curtain in her room to hide it from her father, (Whose name was Ira!) and she needed to go to Xander's to even watch the Charlie Brown Christmas Special.

I think I'm rambling a little. Not to mention repeating things you probably already know.

Anyway, good for you for writing such a unique story.
Review By [loyaleskamoe] • Date [18 Sep 07] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from physicsteach
Review:
How did I never find this before? This is awesome! Well thought out, well written, sensible, all the good stuff. Go you!
Review By [physicsteach] • Date [28 Feb 07] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from (Current Donor)Shieldage
Review:
Hey, reading the last line, then re-reading the entire piece... Awesome.

Thanks for the good work

Plus, you attracted some well thought out reviews ;)

I'm 'Recc'-ing this, for the moment :)
Comments from author:
I'm glad you liked it. Yes, this was more philosophical than most of my stories.

As to the other reviews, yes, some interesting responses.

My take on Willow and wicca is that she always treated it as a form of magick, rather than as a religion. So when she calls on Hectate and Osirus, she is calling on their power, not worshipping them. Yes, this may be violating the rules of Judaism, but no worse than celebrating Christmas with her friends.
Review By [(Current Donor)Shieldage] • Date [15 Nov 06] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from Godot
Review:
Very good fic.
Solid characterisation, believably a "missing scene".
Review By [Godot] • Date [12 Aug 05] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from Lucinda
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yeowch. That's an aspect of Willow being Jewish that I'd never thought of, and it makes a well-crafted little story. I like the support that it gives for her otherwise-inexplicable slide into weirdness that I'd thought so out-of-character for her earlier seasons.

Lucinda
Review By [Lucinda] • Date [12 Aug 05] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from MBB
Review:
As usual, a very interesting and thought-provoking story

[]“What! You thought I deserved to go to hell.” Buffy was offended and her anger
[]began to penetrate her uncaring shell.

Lol! Nice portrayal of how easy religious misconceptions can lead to fights even between close friends
-And I would have preferred Buffy getting out of her shell of numbmess that way a lot over the way she did on the show.


[]But she long-since had learned to reconcile her religious beliefs with the
[]supernatural experiences of Sunnydale, and the spirits she invoked as witch.

I always though Judaism was a mono-theist religion, while in her carreer as witch
she called upon (and paid tribute) to at least ceveral other Gods and spirits, which made me wonder if she was either very open to assimilate new information, or had dropped her religion as conviction and only held on to the culture of it.


[]The rabbi really never mentioned any afterlife and I know some Jews have different
[] opinions. But there’s some talk in the Talmud about the world to come. There’s
the idea that when the Messiah comes, everyone will be resurrected and live
[]again in peace.

Well, that finally explains to me why Jesus was able to so quickly gain so many followers, promises of paradise always do it good in troublesome times. :-)


[]Willow sighed. “That always struck me as overly simplistic. Be good and you
[]get a Heaven cookie.
[]...
[]“I’ve never really thought about it like this. I guess that good is doing what you
[]think is right, what helps others, and your reward is the knowledge that you did
[]what’s right. And your reward after death is not going to some fairytale Heaven
[]or Hell but in what people think of you after you’re gone.”

I have thought the same, and I think that is indeed the way Willow acted troughout the series (being good for the perpose and conviction of being good, not because of being rewarded)
It also makes her 'redemption' arc in season 7 even more rediculous. After all she had always been trying to be good.
(Even when she tried to end the World she only wanted to end the suffering of the people, and especially if she believed that at the absolute end *all* the people would go to a place without suffering, uit was a good intention).


[]“But then you don’t believe God punishes people. Murderers, the mayor, those
[]order of tan Yankee assassin guys?” Buffy asked

From the form of Christianety I was lightly raised in (Luthers, I think), I got the impression that Jesus said the same thing, that everybody no matter how evil would be forgiven and end up in Heaven immediately.
Although I am not sure I believe in any form of afterlive myself. (Which is actually pretty weird, and I would never have thought of it without your fic, so thank you :-)


[]“There’s one problem with that,” Buffy said. Willow and Xander looked at her.
[]“I was in Heaven” Buffy said..

Yes, that was a crazy moment in Jossverse; (in contrary to ATS) they had always been carefull to avoid the question of afterlive on BTVS.
And even then, it is the question is raised if the afterlive is based on the believes and imagination of people about it during their lives, and if Buffy was in fact really in heaven at all.
(She claimed it was the feeling of her friends and family being save and happy, while we know that they were not. Also, similar states were discribed as a Lie by Angel (Jasmine's paradise) and experienced as Hell by Cordelia (as higher being)


[]Not long afterward, after Willow had wiped everyone’s memories, Xander would
[]look back at this moment and wonder if undermining the source of Willow’s
[]morality was such a good idea.

Yup, when the core essence of peoples rules of live are put in doubt, people tend to denial - especially in Sunnydale.
Very capturing statement, and a much better reason for Willows Tabula Rasa-spell than that 'want to make things better'-crap.


MBB
Review By [MBB] • Date [12 Aug 05] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from CPTSkip
Review:
I am so sorry about your mother. But you have produced a very interesting story. Not only is your story a logical explaination of why Willow did what she did, it even 'feels' right. Thank you for giving us this interesting story.
Review By [CPTSkip] • Date [11 Aug 05] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The World to Come" from firechild
Review:
you know, i never thought about it that way. being jewish myself, i know that our religion doesn't dwell on life after death so much. i thought this fic explaining willow's reasoning was very well written. kuddos to you for a great fic and my condolences on your mother.
Review By [firechild] • Date [11 Aug 05] • Rating [9 out of 10]
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