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Review of chapter "Chapter Three" from (Recent Donor)DaveTurner
Hi there,
Thought i recognised your name...I have a terrible memory for names! So I looked up your stories and found I'd read a few and I think you might have reviewed a few of I say my memory isn't what it was.

This looked like an interesting story and so it is. I often feel sorry for poor Faith and reading this I wonder why she didn't just leave Sunny'D' for good and strike out on her own. Oh well never mind.

I like the idea of writing 'bad girl' Faith, I tend to write her as 'reformed Faith', but that might change in a story I'm working on now.

Anyway I'm rambling now so I'll sign off after say, great story I'll try and read the rest tomorrow.


PS: You don't 'fire' torpedoes either because they're shot out of the tubes with compressed air, you 'shoot' them or if you're a German U-Boat commander you say, 'Torpedo...LOSS!' at least that's what it sounds like to English ears...just call me Mr Pedantic.
Review By [(Recent Donor)DaveTurner] • Date [26 May 14] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from lunalurker
Just as good on the reread. Well done. New insights and good things for Faith are a weakness of mine.
Poor, poor Faith. If only Buffy had ever opened up and believed in Faith like Faith believed in her.
The fandom idea that Angel was brought back at the exact worst time by the forces of evil instead of good gains more than a little traction with me.
Thanks for writing. :)
Comments from author:
Thank you so much!
Faith needs good things to happen for her, sometimes.
Thanks for commenting on a very old story!
Review By [lunalurker] • Date [16 Mar 14] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Oxnate
Hmm... I'm a bit divided here. I really liked the first couple chapters. The insights you had into Faith's psyche are uncanny. I liked pretty much everything except chapter 6. Didn't care much for the battle. Mostly because I've never seen anything to indicate that Faith had that type of powers or even that insight. Just felt off to me.

Anyway, don't mind me. Keep up the good work.
Comments from author:
It was sort of supposed to be implied that a lot of what she managed during that battle was only possible with those weapons/tools, and at that place/in that time. Basically, in the same way Buffy was only able to beat ADAM in that one place and time, and while supported/enhanced by that one-shot spell.

The insight? Well, yeah, that's what happens when you write about your favorite character; they inevitably end up a little smarter, cooler, and more resourceful than they are in other people's stories.

Glad you mostly liked it, even if there were parts that didn't quite do it for you.
Review By [Oxnate] • Date [23 Jul 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Hecatonchires
What BTVS is all about, even if its not Buffy. One girl, her thoughts, a big bad and her advisor. Reccomended
Comments from author:
Thank you very much!

The Rec is much appreciated, also.
Review By [Hecatonchires] • Date [24 May 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from draconis
Very good story. Really like the relationship built between Faith and Raven.

A nice organic story without being all preachy about how terrible man is.

I was wondering if the eyeless lizard was something out of Early American lore? I envisioned a Gila Monster spirit as the battle was fought. The description, the poison, etc.

It was sad to realize that Faith was still determined to return to Sunnyhell to be hurt by those who should be her friends and support. Somehow, I think if you had continued this in a series, Faith would have managed to not turn down the dark path, despite the betrayals and pain ahead. Love can sure help one make the stupidest decisions.

It really is too bad this isn't a series.
Comments from author:
Hey, thanks.
I like this one a lot too.

The dragon spirit isn't (so far as I know) something out of actual mythology. I actually DID do some research on this one, but that part I just conjured up out of way too many fantasy novels I've read and D&D sessions I've run.

Yeah, the heartbreaking part of the whole thing (for me) is that Faith goes through all this, she actually does a bit of 'change and learn and grow', and heads back to Sunnydale with a fresh resolve to fight for Buffy's love... not realizing that the fight is already lost. Angel is back, and Buffy isn't going to move on to someone else while THAT weight is hanging around her neck.

This one is intended to fit both into the show continuity AND my own version of the Faithverse(tm). But, in both cases, she DID go down the dark road. I guess she had to experience that before she could move past the even darker things in her life.
Review By [draconis] • Date [31 Jan 09] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Three" from laoshi
Last of the Mohicans is a great film, next to Faith’s knife and the Scythe the coolest weapon I’ve ever seen is (and I’m mangling his name) Chinguschuk’s. I don't even know what to call it, it looks like a cross between an axe and a scimitar. The Sunnydale poster was a nice bit of comic relief. I really enjoy these little factoids we get about the day to day concerns of being a Slayer, the increased metabolism, cigarettes having less o an umph, in several stories you allude to the fact that Slayers don’t tan because the Slayer healing repairs the damage the sun does to a Slayers skin. On these own they don’t seem like much, but together they give a wonderful texture to our heroine.

Faith’s greatest fear is powerlessness, that the Slayer gig could be snatched back in an instant and she would go back to being the person she thinks of as worthless. Faith’s sense of self worth is is too closely tied to being the Slayer, her perspective on Ms Northam has definite shades of Faith’s relationship with the Mayor. In exchange for friendship,Faith is willing to do almost anything. Who are these mysterious watchers? I’m leaning towards some kind of genius loci, or perhaps the some tribal spirits. The path, the spring, the weird chocolate aversion, all this is pointing towards Faith being chosen for something, presumably defeating this Spirit Beast. The spring is obviously intended to be some kind of ritual purification. This is shaping up to be a classic spiritual quest a more demanding version of Buffy’s vision of the First Slayer or her meeting with the Shadowmen. Faith will hopefully learn important lessons about herself as a result of this confrontation.

Grimwater is fantastic name. During this interlude a reoccurring theme in your work surfaces. However evil vampires, demons, and spirits may be magical wielding human are worst. It’s the fatal conjunction of our own moral flaws and the temptations offered by the power of magic. These spirits were evil on their own but it took a human to make them truly terrifying.

P.S. My favourite turn of phrase in this chapter “Enveloped in a sea of strangeness…”
Review By [laoshi] • Date [20 Apr 08] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Two" from laoshi
Faith shows remarkable restraint at the beginning o this chapter. We get so used to the image of Faith as the violent psychopath that seeing her refrain from crushing Dean’s hand, is somewhat unexpected. Just how many people is Buffy going to inspire to reform. Faith is so bus trying to twist herself into a Buffy approved shape that she can’t see how amazing she is. What I hope Faith get’s from this walkabout is a sense of herself as a person and a Slayer in her own right. It is easy to forget just how young Faith is, just how much growing up she still has left to do. She’s got all of the usual teen angst about who she is and what her place is in the world on to of years of abuse and negative reinforcement.
You always drop tidbits in to remind the reader of the self loathing and worthlessness that simmers just below Faith’s conscious thought. I love the way this chapter leaves so many questions unanswered, we get the bare minimum of information required to whet our appetites for more. What was that magical Thoom? Who is watching Faith? What do those rings do? Why are the Indian’s so scared of her? BTW I love your descriptions of the two copper rings. The bird seeming to come to live is a stroke of genius. I also enjoyed Faith’s bout of intuition over which jewelry to pick. The Slayers are meant to be mystical warriors, but the show hardly ever touch on the mystical part. The strength and speed we get ad museam, but apart from the occasional mention of her Spidey Sense, any mystical senses Slayers might possess was simply not mentioned.
Faith’s justification for pickpocketing poses a very interesting question: If you save the world, what does the world owe you? Again and again reading your fics I’ll read a fresh insight into a character or relationship and think to myself why didn’t I notice that? To paraphrase Dirk Gently true genius is creating something new that seems blindingly obvious after the fact. In this chapter that moment for me is Faith’s musings about Giles and Buffy’s relationship. We know Buffy is Giles’ first slayer, that he has never lived with or supported her so it should have been obvious that he would be ignorant of some aspects of her daily life that he simply has never had to deal with. Faith realising that Giles doesn’t have all of the answers goes back to what I was saying earlier about her growing up. Faith may be very cynical and pessimistic about the way other people treat her, she may not trust Giles completely but she still has that childlike Faith that he will always know what to do and she is still seeking his approval.. Faith could reach out to Giles about her hand to mouth existence, but it is his job to know if something is wrong with her.
I think on your stories embody the quintessential methodology of the Whedonverse. You take a character people care about and you put them through as much loss and pain as you can, and watch them struggle to overcome it. Faith finishes her internal monologue by reminding herself that she can rely on no one else, but she decides that’s enough. And then the universe kicks her just as she is dragging herself up off the metaphorical floor by showing her that people really don’t give a shit about her.
Review By [laoshi] • Date [20 Apr 08] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One" from laoshi
Using the device of Faith overhearing Xander and Willow's conversation was an inspired choice. I love the way you use all of Faith's interactions throughout the chapter to build on Faith's feelings of frustration, isolation, and rejection. Buffy inviting Willow to stay for a weekend while Faith has to stare at the walls of the motel must feel like the latest in a long series of emotional knives Buffy twists into Faith's gut long before the physical one. Walls are an important theme in this chapter perhaps Giles, Willow, Xander, fate itself, isn't conspiring at every opportunity to separate Buffy from Faith, but it certainly feels like it. Faith should have gone to Slayerfest 98 with Buffy, Faith should be the one Buffy invites to stay, she is much more in need of it than Willow. I do have a slight bone to pick with you about Xander. I In your Faithverse to the disappointment of Faith/Xander shippers everywhere Faith and Xander never develop a meaningful relationship. I know Xander is a teenage boy and can be a little crass but I think you do him a disservice. It's not so bad in this chapter in particular but in a Thing of Terrible Beauty (which I'd love to see posted on this site) he does come off as more of a twat than I think is necessary for the story. It is necessary for you to well, not vilify but present the less than laudable qualities of Xander, Willow and Giles for this story to work. In Willow and Giles case you do this with a marvelous sense of ambiguity. Did Giles intend for Faith to overhear the end of his remarks about Faith leaving being the best thing for everyone? Did Willow smirk at Faith as she leads Buffy away to spend time with her instead of Faith. When Faith is thinking about Giles keeping Buffy away from her, even she concedes her has his reasons for doing so. When Faith is belittling Willow's isolation she does express some sympathy for her. You allow the reader to give Giles and Willow the benefit of the doubt, you never seem to give us the same chance to let Xander off the hook. Anyway back to the paean of praise: mentioning Faith's birthday was a great tidbit to include. It serves the dual purpose of reinforcing the general sense of neglect and reminding us just how young Faith is. I believe Faith's canon age is a little obscure, but it makes a great deal of sense for her to be called at the same age as Buffy. She is two years younger than the rest of the Scoobies, a sophomore to their Seniors and Buffy is her first love. Reading about her watching Buffy and trying to find it within herself to express that love to Buffy just got me where I live. Having Faith be the only one to notice the shadow lurking in Buffy's eyes was ingenious. When Willow interrupts them just as Buffy is going to open up to Faith I was just about ready to tear something apart. When I read Gifts Discarded I thought it was the best expression I had ever read of Faith giving everything she is to Buffy only to have her cast it aside like it was nothing.

P.S. I don't want to delay you posting any new material but I'd appreciate it if you could post Gift's Discarded as soon as its convenient.
Comments from author:
Ack--I meant to reply to this, and as usual I promptly forgot. Sorry.

--Faith should be the one Buffy invites to stay, she is much more in need of it than Willow.--

I really wish they had developed the rivalry/hatred between Faith and Willow on the show. They hint at it, there are a couple or three moments where it appears briefly, and you see the potential there... and then they let it pass. I suppose it would be difficult to develop it very far without it seeming like a love triangle (though of course most of us would have had no problem with THAT).

--I do have a slight bone to pick with you about Xander. I In your Faithverse to the disappointment of Faith/Xander shippers everywhere Faith and Xander never develop a meaningful relationship.--

BLECH! Faith/XANDER?!?!?
Um... no.
No, no, NO.
(Never-Ever. Seriously.)

--It's not so bad in this chapter in particular but in a Thing of Terrible Beauty (which I'd love to see posted on this site) he does come off as more of a twat than I think is necessary for the story. --

I mean, yes, I totally admit to frequently using Xander as a bit of a punching bag, because, truthfully, I hate the guy.
But in AToTB, he's damn near the star of the show! He's all OVER that story, and I've had more than one person applaud my use of him there, and ask if I'm a fellow Xander fan, on account of him being all action-guy and plan-guy, and undercover secret-agent guy....
But yes, okay, the perceptive reader (which obviously includes YOU) will notice my pervasive dislike of the character. Sometimes it's well hidden, sometimes not so much, but it's always there.
And always will be.
Sorry, that's just something you have to live with if you read my stuff.

--Anyway back to the paean of praise--

I like that part the best!!!

--mentioning Faith's birthday was a great tidbit to include--reminding us just how young Faith is. I believe Faith's canon age is a little obscure, but it makes a great deal of sense for her to be called at the same age as Buffy--

Faith IS young. Very young, especially for all the garbage she's already gone through before Sunnydale, and then of course it all gets much worse. That's a point I come back to over and over, because it's one that Joss emphasized in Season One, with Buffy, and I could do worse than emulate him a bit... and it also provides some contrast between the two Slayers. They both had it rough, they both survived, but one of them was much more deeply damaged than the other... because she had to do it more or less on her own.
Faith's cannon age WAS murky until fairly recently, and then Joss (or someone on the official side of things) basically said she was the same age as Buffy. I call 'bullcrap' on that one, at least for my 'verse. Faith was called when she was 15, same as Buffy.

--and Buffy is her first love--

That is exactly right. Faith fell for this girl, basically at first sight, and she fell hard.
(and then she ends up 'falling' again, more literally. Yikes, that's kind of creepy.)

--Reading about her watching Buffy and trying to find it within herself to express that love to Buffy just got me where I live--

Faith.... Well, all she knows how to do is be tough, and (mostly) channel her rage, and romp and stomp and kick ass.
And so, sitting there next to Buffy, and trying to express herself, and having only that menu of options... she's lost. What hurts is knowing that she wants it so badly, to connect with this girl, but it never seems to happen.
(Damn that Willow and her smugly-timed arrivals!!!)

I can't believe anyone even knows that 'Gifts Discarded' exists, much less considers it worthwhile...?
That's such a tiny, off-the-cuff little thing.
Not sure I'll post it here, in the big forum, but I'll go and give it a look.

Thanks for the in-depth reviewage!
Review By [laoshi] • Date [1 Apr 08] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from (Past Donor)Lupo
As always, excellent Faith story. I hope to see more of her adventures that happened "Off Screen" while the series centered on Buffy. I agree with your viewpoint that every time Faith had something good or esteem building happen to her, the universe came right behind it and smacked her back down. I think that had a lot to do with her "screw it all, why bother" attitude.

Please keep writing.
Review By [(Past Donor)Lupo] • Date [29 Oct 07] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Oranda
Read the whole thing through in one night, just terrific writing. Still a little confused about the relationship between this story and Interludes and Virtue of a Warrior. I just got to chapter 5/4 in Virtue and the story mentions Kira. So now I'm really confused. Love your work, but I could really use an explanation here.
Comments from author:
This one, Virtue, and Interludes all take place in the same continuity, in the same universe.
Walking About happens in the middle of Buffy season three, then the bad stuff happens, and coma Faith is in the hospital during the summer between Season Three/Season Four for Interludes (and meets Kira there). When she wakes up again for the Season Four eps 'This Year's girl' and 'Who are You?' Kira is gone.
[The second part of 'Interludes' would show that happening, if I ever got around to writing it. Basically Kira is cured during a bizarre series of events that involve some mystical accidents, Faith gives her an ATM card the Mayor had left her "Just in case" which draws on an account with around a hundred thousand dollars in it, and when Faith is captured and put BACK in the hospital, Kira follows her last instructions and gets out of Sunnydale].
In 'Virtue' Faith mentions that in passing, wondering where she is/if she's okay.

And then, just to make things more confusing, I SKIP OVER two more, as of yet unwritten novels, and start on 'Faith and Buffy's Super-Happy-Ending Bedtime Story', which picks up with Faith having located Kira again, and the whole thing is Faith telling her a (very kick-ass) 'what-if' story about what might have happened back in Season Three, if Faith and Buffy had managed to put together a relationship 'thang'.

So see?
Makes perfect sense!

Um... sorry?

Anyways, thanks for reading/reviewing... and now you have me feeling guilty about not writing in a more linear fashion.
::Heavy Sigh::
Review By [Oranda] • Date [15 Oct 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from (Current Donor)ginvirus
I love this work.

Your description of Faith and how you ingrained this fiction into cannon.
Review By [(Current Donor)ginvirus] • Date [11 Oct 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from (Recent Donor)Ironbear
"I can certainly post some more, I just hope people don't get upset at all the non-crossover stories." - DreamSmith

Hope they don't. Your non-xover stuff is some of the best Faith writing on the site here. They rank up there even with Mediancat's who is among the best Faith writers on TtH.
Review By [(Recent Donor)Ironbear] • Date [3 Oct 07] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from Marcel
This was so amazingly beautiful...

As for a sequel - I'd rather prefer if you went out of canon, actually. While I haven't been able to understand it while watching the series, it has become obvious that Faith was badly mistreated by everyone else. If you could write a "what if" story which breaks that, more power to you.
Comments from author:
'This was so amazingly beautiful...'

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

As for 'out of canon' sequels where Faith doesn't have it quite so bad....
Well, I've already done two takes on that.
One, a novel that shows Faith leaving Sunnydale after the body-switching thing in Season Four, but splitting off into my own AU instead of leading to Los Angeles, and that whole distasteful Angel episode. It's my first try at a novel, and parts of it are a little rough, but I'm still proud of it. It'll probably be the next thing I post here.
The second one I've already started posting, it's the 'Super-Happy-Ending Bedtime Story' thing, also novel-length (in three parts). That's a 'What If' story in literal form; Faith herself doing a retelling of the later parts of Season Three, where she and Buffy actually manage to not-kill each other long enough to discover the possibility of a relationship. I've been working on that one, off and on, for a long while now, and it's near and dear to my heart. The framework of it is set after the other novel, which has confused a few people, but if you just let go and try not to worry about minor questions, I think it works pretty well.

Again, thanks for the review; it makes me sad when these stories are received with indifference and ignorage.
Review By [Marcel] • Date [23 Sep 07] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from (Past Donor)Jewel
Loved the last two chapters.
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Review By [(Past Donor)Jewel] • Date [23 Sep 07] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Seven" from (Recent Donor)Ironbear
Good stuff. I'm enjoying your Faith-fics - hope you post more of them.
Comments from author:
I can certainly post some more, I just hope people don't get upset at all the non-crossover stories.
I'm trying to finish up the HP crossover, but a couple of very insistent people are pushing for the last couple of chapters of the current Faith/Buffy book.
Review By [(Recent Donor)Ironbear] • Date [23 Sep 07] • Rating [10 out of 10]
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