Your Agf seems like a human centric bore fest there's no diversity and the guy named Gabriel comes out like a cut out Gary-stu. Their culture feels stagnated and what exactly is up with them just barging in on Earth acting like their in command of something.
Comments from author:
There's plenty of diversity in the AGF. If you read the first chapter, I mentioned some of the members of the AGF and they will be introduced in a few more chapters. They had permission from the President of the Federation to enter Federation space and the Federation needed their help with the stargate and taking the Ori shields down.
Review By [Darksnider] • Date [14 Mar 10] • Rating [7 out of 10]
Great chapter. Sometimes you're using galaxy when you need to use universe. Keep up the good work.
Comments from author:
Thanks for the comment and review. I have corrected galaxy for universe. I've also corrected the little things I have found in the other chapters. If you haven't read chapter 10 yet, I've also corrected that.
Review By [Morgomir] • Date [7 Mar 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
I do like this story. Changing the storyline from a Stargate to Star a Trek universe is not easy (the 'Normal' series by jakl [including Buffy coming from another universe by dying and her counterpart [in a mental institution] becoming her!] looks to be very well done) but you did it.
Good job.
I do have a few objections (of course ;-).
The humans the AGF now call the Ori were from a different galaxy (at least in Stargate canon), not from the other side of the Milky Way. Any converts to 'Origin' in the Milky Way would have been eliminated by the AGF in the 3 centuries since they left Earth.
Are AGF ships using Ancient or Asgard derived hyperdrives? In Stargate canon, the Daedelus took 3 weeks to get to Atlantis and Asgard ships took 1 week, not 1 hour.
For compatibility with Star Trek, you probably need to find a different galaxy than Andromeda as one of the five. In the original (1960's) ST series, it was implied that the Kelvins, a conqueror species, ruled it and were slowly expanding to conquer other galaxies, even though it takes 300 years for one of their multi generation warp drive starships to reach the Milky Way. If not, then you need to have the AGF in conflict with them (a separate story in a series perhaps or at least mentioned). Winning would not be easy, both because of the Kelvin's vast base of resources (a whole galaxy) but also due to their nature. The Kelvins were very intelligent. Spock's mind meld showed a single Kelvin had a brain capacity which could simultaneously have each of one hundred limbs perform a separate task.
AGF lifespans would be much greater then you imply. They had access to the archives of 3 races, including medical. Plus their own medical R&D in the centuries since leaving Earth. In the real world, it looks like the conquest of the aging process will be accomplished during the 21st century. An article last week (late Feb 2010 or early March 2010) at nextbigfuture.com indicated that after aging and disease are gone, fatal accidents will keep average lifespans at the 300 to 400 year level. New designs for buildings, vehicles, and such, concentrating on safety, will help with much of that, resulting in a realistically achievable human lifespan of 8000 years (yes, thousand). I know that doesn't happen in the ST universe, but even with that constraint, the medical knowledge of the Stargate universe would allow a much longer life than we have now, which means that your descriptions and ages of characters are probably off. Longer life would mean longer time in grade for an officer (seniority issues at the very least) and a much more youthful appearance at any particular age (an example is the Honor Harrington universe, characters like active duty Manticoran Marine Corps Sgt. Mjr. Babcock was 80 but looked under 40 and Honor looked under 30 at 60).
This part is not a criticism, merely something to consider as you write this story. You may want to find a way to bring it out. The humans from Earth were from the best Earth had in terms of intelligence. Their descendants would therefore be, on average, of higher intelligence than Federation humans. Both the AGF military and Starfleet would consist of people at the high end of intelligence, but the AGF has an advantage due to a higher average in the general population. It's just something that should be noted in the story and does have implications when planning strategy, in the middle of a battle, and general competence. Something to consider.
Again, I am enjoying your story very much.
Comments from author:
I mentioned in chapters 3 and 4 (I think) that the supergate leads to the other end of the galaxy.
You are corrected. It did take the Daedelus anywhere from 17 to 21 days to travel to the Pegasus galaxy. That's because they were using the red hyperdrives, which they got from the Jaffa. When the Asgards gave Humans their Legacy, they got the white hyperdrives and it only took 4 days to reach Atlantis from Earth. The Asgards technology and ships were far superior than the Humans at that time and it only took Thor less than an hour to get to the Milky Way galaxy from the Ida galaxy which was further than the Pegasus galaxy. However, it's been over 330 years and the Lantians ships are now better than the Asgards ships, that's because of the change in the time-line and what Dr. McKay knew when he and Colonel Sheppard changed the time-line. They are are using the Ancient, Asgard and Furling technologies. There are a few surprises in the story.
I will incorporate the Kelvins, thanks for that. My beta reader also bought up a few other races I should be using and I will. I already have on and will use the others.
Thanks for the review.
Review By [theunixer] • Date [4 Mar 10] • Rating [8 out of 10]
This story is actually getting quite interestig, so keep up the good work.
On another note after reading some of the reviews for this fic, and your responses, and watching almost the entirety of every SG1 and SGA ep, and both SG1 movies, I must say that you are incorrect in saying that Wraith ships can't be beamed through; I can't say for certain that a point to point beaming of a person would work, as I can't remember then doing that, but remember at least one occasion of the Asguard on the Daedalus complaining about it, then acquiessing and beaming a nuclear bomb onto a hive ship, destroying it. I believe, that your assertion that their ships can't have stuff beamed aboard is based on the Ori ships, not the wraith, as I can't think of one instance where beaming a bomb on board worked, maybe using rings to get on on board, as they did try that in one ep I can think of, but not beaming it onboard an Ori ship.
Other than that, you are doing really well so far. Looking forwards to what comes next.
Comments from author:
You are correct. They did beam aboard one time, however, after that, the Wraith put some sort of energy field around their ship and no one could beam aboard again. They always get aboard through the main hanger bay, which was the Wraith's weak spot.
Review By [bucksavage] • Date [4 Mar 10] • Not Rated
In response to your answering of my review I'd like to respond, if that's ok. I have seen Stargate and its follow up series and that's the reason I questioned. The intergalactic hyperdrive on the Daedalus allowed it to move between Atlantis and Earth in a fairly short amount of time. So going to Earth from Furl wouldn't really present a problem seeing as how they're in the same galaxy.
I'm not saying which enemy is superior to the other. The ST enemies have advantages that the SG ones don't have and vice-versa, neither should be discarded out of hand. And you have completely disregarded the Q. To make it simpler, the Wraith don't use shields on the majority of their ships where everyone in ST do. Borg ships regenerate faster than anything seen in the SG universe in terms of fixing damage. However, weapons in SG seem to be stronger but a greater number of people still rely on nuclear weapons which are weaker than photon torpedoes used by the Federation so dependent upon how quickly the Alliance advanced they're weaponry is superior.
You brought up Admiral Ross as an example of a starbase commander. I'm sorry to inform you but that's incorrect. Ross was the Field Commander of Starfleet Forces during the Dominion War and set up his HQ at Starbase 375. Once DS9 was captured he shifted his HQ there. He was not in charge of the nominal operations of the starbase. Another way to think of it is, when generals from WWII captured cities and set up HQs they didn't become governors of the towns, the same thing with Ross. He simply chose the best location for his base of operations available.
Finally having gone to Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki, starbases change shape and DS9 does count as one. So does the one over Earth which one can see in ST:V which looks nothing like Starbase 375. Sorry if this disturbs you, but I thought you'd appreciate this.
Comments from author:
The Wraith don't need shields. You can't beam through their hulls and they and their hulls also regenerate quickly. Their hulls are organic and a nuclear weapon wouldn't destroy one. The Wraith are also immortal and can only be killed in battle. The weapons used by SG1 during the last few seasons came from the Asgards and Ancients. Which are some of the most powerful weapons in the entire galaxy. Especially the Ancient drone weapon and their beam weapon, which is more power than the Asgard beam weapon. The AGF now uses the weapons of the Asgards and Ancients and all their technology. If you every saw Stargate Universe, the Ancients built a ship that could fly through the sun without doing any damage to the ship or the crew.
I never saw Q as an enemy and I always liked him.
Review By [espinosaca] • Date [4 Mar 10] • Not Rated
Its an interesting idea, and one I saw in the form of a oneshot on ff.net. However, the problem I'm having is if the Alliance had such technology why couldn't they go back to Earth? Or at least find some of the other ST races? Also you over-emphasized the fact that the starbase was Federation in origin. Every time you mentioned it you had the qualifier of it being "Federation Starbase 313." Another thing, if this starbase is as far from the center of Federation space as I think it'd have to be it most likely wouldn't have an Admiral in charge of it. Remember how in DS9, they put a Commander in charge of one of the most important starbases in the quadrant? Well I hope this helps.
Comments from author:
Read the first chapter again, it explains everything. They left Earth because of World War III and a change in the time-line. They have the technology of three of the four great races. Who were the Ancients, Asgards and Furlings. The Ancients and Furlings are now Ascended Beings and the Asgards are dead. Furl is at the other end of the Milky Way galaxy and Earth was the only planet in that part of the galaxy that had a stargate. I don't know if you have every seen Stargate SG1 or Stargate Atlantis, but their technology is far superior than anything the Federation has and also their villains, including the Borg, Dominion and Species 8472 combined.
When I say Federation Starbase 313, I'm speaking from their perspective and I did that on purpose. Deep Space 9 was a space station and not a Starbase, which has thousands of personnel, and an Admiral is always in charge of a Starbase. Admiral Ross was in charge of Starbase 375. Search for Federation Starbase on the internet and you will see what one looks like.
Thanks for the review.
Review By [espinosaca] • Date [3 Mar 10] • Not Rated
Interesting concept, and very sad back story. It was really interesting that you have the Travelers as a member race of the AGF. Does that mean that Wesley Crusher would know about the AGF as a defacto Traveler? Two big spelling errors of note. The Wraith would hibernate, not "hyphenate." And the two planets in the system would be habitable, not "habitual." While I do kind of hope that the planets are in the habit of existing in the system, I'm pretty sure that you meant that people could live on them.
Comments from author:
Thanks for the comments and I have corrected the errors. The Travelers are a humanoid race in the Pegasus galaxy.
Review By [dreameralways] • Date [19 Feb 10] • Not Rated
Only issue: the wraith go into hibernation, like bears, hyphenation is adding a hyphen into text, the same thing goes for later on in the same paragraph where you say the hyphenate, it should be hibernate. Onterwise, good work!
Comments from author:
I've corrected it and the story is complete. My beta reader has it and we are now working the other chapters.
Review By [bucksavage] • Date [19 Feb 10] • Not Rated
Good start the only thing I don't get is why this is a Star Trek story not StarGate unless one of the races are from ST:O but then it should be both ST and SG.
Comments from author:
Most of this story is going to take place in the Star Trek Universe and and thanks for the review.
Review By [IcemanII] • Date [18 Feb 10] • Rating [9 out of 10]