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Review of chapter "Comprehension" from VillageOrchid
Review:
This is kind of nice. He knows he has to apologize but there isn't any urgency to it. The cuddling was nice.
Review By [VillageOrchid] • Date [28 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Comprehension" from Genuka
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Good way to show Xander exactly what he was really doing.
Review By [Genuka] • Date [28 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Comprehension" from GotWolfy
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Yeah I'm gonna have to stop reading this story since the author does not get Xander at all. Xander Killed Jesse, his best friend ,when he got turned into a vamp. That happened in the second ep. Xander already know all that! And proved that he is able to do what need to be done. so this chapter is a waste of time and is only meant to convince the reader that letting Angel live is not the stupidest idea since the beginning of time.
Review By [GotWolfy] • Date [28 Aug 10] • Rating [1 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Comprehension" from missinglink
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Within the world you have the argument is okay that Cameron uses. In a larger sense though I think it may get a negative reaction unless people just want to explain away those that were with the Xander course of action. I think the problem you didn't face is the larger religion aspect in relation to Angel's soul and its part to play in all this.

Angelus once cursed and having his soul restored spent, what, 40 years or so that we know little about before being helpful in WW2 and with the fallout of the events on the sub he spent the next 50 or so in squalor eating rats and avoiding humanity supposedly. The idea was that he was tormented by his conscience that was there due to his soul's return. With his breaking of the curse, the demon regained control of the vessel and his soul went where? No one knows. Had his actions as Angelus no impact on his eternal rest? If so then was he damned originally for his actions before being turned? Would he have done enough while ensouled to warrant entry to Heaven? If he was given entry to Heaven then why pull the soul out of eternal reward just to restore an abomination that should not have existed in the first place except for gypsy vengeance? Would not condemning a soul to eternity on earth with the burden of the actions perpetrated by a demon in their body and constrained to the edicts of that lifestyle (drink blood to live, confined to night or shade, constantly fighting the beast within) be beyond cruel?

The argument of comparing his plight to Cameron are not the same and it would be an interesting point to expound upon. Just because a cyborg/machine feels emotions does that mean that they have a soul? How can you tell? If she had a soul then wouldn't her programming be secondary to the argument of her going "bad" in so much as her soul would dictate her intentions not her software? The nature of just how human she might be becoming or still have to go, maybe never to achieve what she ultimately desires would be interesting to explore, but does not relate to Angel's situation quite as clear cut as you laid out.

I have greatly enjoyed your writing and will continue to read as more comes. I just wanted to articulate the point above and show how a)some may argue and be right to and b) a philosophical aspect that while not explored might have been an interesting point to look at within your story. Many books have been written about things desiring those qualities we take for granted and just what they believe constitutes the things that make us unique as creatures. Just seemed like you were headed there, but took an easy path away from the harder questions.

Best of luck as you continue and keep it up. Later.
Comments from author:
Honestly, the philosophical/theological notions simply never occurred to me. I'm not a religious sort. But the notion you've posed is very interesting. If I find the opportunity to explore it in the remainder of the story, I'll see where it leads.

And, yeah, I know this particular issue is probably one of the more divisive ones in Buffy fandom. I've already seen the couple of ruffled feathers that've cropped up so far. Folks will believe what they believe. If they were paying me, I'd write the story they wanted me to write. Since this is all for recreation, no such luck. Thanks for the thoughts to ponder!
Review By [missinglink] • Date [28 Aug 10] • Rating [8 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Comprehension" from Vilkath
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Eh I didn't like this chapter and not just because I hate Angel. As a character he's eventualy all right, eventually being the key word. He was a useless putz for over a hundred years after he got his soul, so the soul wasn't the main reason he instantly started to want to do good. Even after directed by whistler and crushing after Buffy Angel didn't do much dirrect good, and only did anything when within sight of Buffy to impress her.

Then after he left for LA he still pretty selfish, only doing good for the eventual reward of being human. A hero working for a reward is less of a hero than one doing it for nothing. So the real flaw in the comparison is that Angel is doing good, that he is vital to the cause and totally different form Angelus. Plus buffy was not working on capturing Angelus, she let him go instead of even fighting him to capture him. Ever dead person since then is her fault.

I just really hate how Cameron being the 'logical' one seemed to only take Buffy's side on the matter, even pushing Xander to apologize when both sides were wrong. Xander for disregaurding Buffy's feelings, and buffy for letting Angelus run around killing people and stopping anyone else from doing anything about it. The other flaw to the comparision is of course in the fact if Cameron's programing went bad it could be fixed with realtive certainty of remaining so. Angel's soul though be lost again the next time he gets happy, not the best of security.

Frankly it was a rather large plot hole in the series that Angel never got another 'Happy', despite some obvoiusly happy moments like the birth of Conor. How shallow is Angel to be 'perfectly happy' with sex with a 17 girl who loves him, but not so happy with birth his own son? Something supposed to be impossible for a vampire?

So yeah the comparision is weak, even with his soul Angel is a putz and a huge security risk to all those around him. He could change back to Angelus at any time and know everyone's secrets and waltz into a group and slaughter them in their sleep. Frankly it was only because Angelus was an idiot things didn't go worse. He could killed most if not all the Scooby gang before anyone even noticed a change if he didn't have to grandstand his return in the libary.
Review By [Vilkath] • Date [28 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Comprehension" from (Recent Donor)DaveTurner
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Good bit of reasoning there comparing the Cameron/Angel situation. I'd not thought of it like that.

I still think Angel should die though!

DaveT
Review By [(Recent Donor)DaveTurner] • Date [28 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Comprehension" from JediKnight
Review:
Interesting update, I hope you will be posting more soon.
Review By [JediKnight] • Date [28 Aug 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Communication" from ladyfiana
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Poor Cam not knowing what she's feeling but knowing them fighting disturbs her. Loving how you write Xander and Cam's relationship. Please write more soon.
Review By [ladyfiana] • Date [27 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Communication" from Bobboky
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very good work
Review By [Bobboky] • Date [27 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Communication" from Genuka
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*gleeful* That was PERFECT!!!! Hope she figures out what the feeling was. I'm betting part of it was frustration. *evil grin*
Review By [Genuka] • Date [27 Aug 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Communication" from VillageOrchid
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...and building upon that point. Since they already know that the library is directly over the hellmouth it stands to reason that it's negative vibes are effecting their temperament.

... and how many times has the library been robbed because it is in a public building?

They should also plan to start meeting either at Buffy's house or Giles' and bring all of their books and valuables there!

Thanks for continuing!
Review By [VillageOrchid] • Date [27 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Communication" from AllenPitt
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Then it is 'stelled'? What does this future-word mean? . Ah, if only arguments like that could be settled by rational means. The problem is, when people get angry they stop thinking rationally. If only it were that easy. Still, if Cam were there, that's what she would have said. Hm, shouldn't Kendra be showing up real soon?
Review By [AllenPitt] • Date [27 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Communication" from (Recent Donor)draconin
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If only she'd been there as the voice of reason in canon!

Two typos? "Then it is stelled. Research the cure, but plan on the possibility that you may have to permanently inujure Angel."

1. "stelled"? Do you mean settled?
2. "inujure" -> "injure"
Review By [(Recent Donor)draconin] • Date [27 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Communication" from MarcusRowland
Review:
OK, so we won't have the "lie" problem.

What does "stelled" mean?
Comments from author:
It means I need to not start writing so late at night!
Review By [MarcusRowland] • Date [27 Aug 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Communication" from (Recent Donor)DaveTurner
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Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Always a good plan. YAY! Cameron.

Did you rush this update? There's a few typos in there!

DaveT.
Review By [(Recent Donor)DaveTurner] • Date [27 Aug 10] • Not Rated
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