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Review of chapter "Chapter Three - Free Spirits, Part One" from thsunami
Review:
Damn man you got mr hanging, now i am going to be waiting on edge to see how xander get through this especially that he may need to upgrade himself now
Comments from author:
Well, I had to choose between waiting even longer to finish the 'Free Spirits' episode or putting up the first part right now and ending it on a cliff-hanger. I eventually decided that some now would beat everything later, and ran with it.

As for the T-890 needing upgrades... mmm, well, we'll have to see how that pans out. ;)

Thanks for reviewing, and I'm glad you're enjoying the series,

El
Review By [thsunami] • Date [1 Dec 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from MarcusSLazarus
Review:
Not sure about the idea of the Initiative already knowing about Buffy and the others- that was one of their best weaknesses, in my book; being so certain that only THEY could do what was 'needed' that they completely ignored even the possibility of another group doing their job until it was obvious that the Scoobies were present-, but the implications of NCIS AND the NID taking an interest in Xander/the Terminator is promising, and the dynamic you're developing between Faith and 'Xander' seems interesting so far (Particularly your description of Xander's new abilities- stronger than Faith in terms of raw power, but Faith has the mobility advantage-; should be interesting to see how they cope as a team).

Hope you're going to continue this soon; there might still be a couple of questions that need answering, such as that 'hole' Ethan mentioned and what 'programmed' Xander with knowledge of Faith (And I particularly wouldn't mind seeing Angel come back; as I mentioned in my last review, he's always been my favourite character), but I have a feeling that it will be VERY interesting to learn what the answers are...
Comments from author:
The Initiative: well, what can I say - I like to take the path less travelled by. ;) Besides... the Initiative and the NID seem to be a very natural match to make, and the NID were always ruthlessly efficient in Stargate canon. In any case, I think you'll find the NF variant of the Initiative are just as certain of their exclusive suitability to do whatever is necessary (if only in their opinion) as their canon counterparts.

As for NCIS and the NID... well, what can I say: they're both great fun to play with, albeit for different reasons.

The Faith-Terminator dynamic: yeah, this was both interesting and a lot of fun to experiment with until I got it 'just so'. Canonically, Faith never quite learned to FULLY trust someone else, although her relationship with Robin Wood seemed like it was aiming to head in that direction, so writing about the NF-verse version of her, and considering how she'd react to having a Terminator bodyguard, was an intriguing exercise for me.

On the one hand, she's Faith - trust isn't something she gives easily. On the other hand, she's seen the first two Terminator films, and she knows some things about what Terminators are like: among other things, she knows that if a Terminator's objective is to protect someone, then that person will only ever come to harm if that Terminator has been completely destroyed first - no ifs, ands, or buts, a Terminator can't be bribed, intimidated, negotiated with, get into legal trouble, and it's almost impossible to trick or deceive them. Too, the T-890's chosen method of introducing himself - saving Faith from certain death twice in the space of ten seconds (first from being run over by Brown's stolen Maverick, then from being repeatedly shot) - probably made a positive impression.

Slayer-Terminator comparative capabilities: when I decided to try and make my 'No Fate' idea into a series instead of a one-shot YAHF, I KNEW that I had to address the classic crossover question - how does Character A compare to Character B? It's the question every fan of science fiction and/or fantasy has asked at least once in their lifetimes. (And often a lot more than that.)

In this case, it was how does a Slayer compare to a Terminator... After some consideration of various ideas to expose their comparative strengths and weaknesses, Faith asking the T-890 questions about their capabilities seemed like the most fitting method of answering that particular question, and would let me resolve the matter fairly early on.

I wanted to give Slayers SOME kind of advantage of Terminators - their agility, omni-directional supernaturally-oriented senses and ability to swim instead of sink seemed to fit the bill - as it'd be a bit unfair for the cyborgs to hold all the aces. Too, agility seemed like a good advantage to give Slayers over Terminators from the standpoint of the general characterisation of the combat styles used respectively in the BtVS and Terminator canons - Buffy, Kendra and Faith nearly always use elaborate martial arts moves and elegantly flowing gymnastics manoeuvres in combat; while Terminators normally either shoot at their opponents or grapple with them and hurl each other through brick walls, with all the grace of a bulldozer.

Oh, don't worry about the 'doorway' question: that will be answered in the fourth fanfic of this series, 'No Fate: Transition' in a manner that at times will be rather... spectacular, shall we say. :)

As for the source of the T-890's programming... well, I have a full explanation of the hows and whys behind that, and I've written a rough draft of the relevant scene. It just needs some tweaking, after which it'll only be a matter of time before it puts in an appearance.

Thank you for the review, and I hope to have Chapter 3 up sometime this week.

Elgin
Review By [MarcusSLazarus] • Date [21 Nov 10] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from aerie
Review:
I like the way you wrote this story - the way you build up the tension with the NCIS, those agents that are as creepy as the agents from the Matrix and a possible add-on from Stargate. Does Maggie Walsh suspect the truth? The tension builds. Has the NID figured out what Xander really is? The mix is just perfect. Just one question: Is the T-890 faster than the T-850 (we've seen the T-850 doing feats that required sudden bursts of speed when it was fighting the T-X), T-888 or the TOK-712 (from TSCC)? Glad to see Faith with her very own Terminator.
Comments from author:
Thank you kindly.

The operatives: yeah... the Matrix agents were one of my sources of inspiration for the operatives (in fact, the names 'Brown', 'Jones' and 'Smith' were chosen specifically as a nod to the agents from the first Matrix film) - other sources include the 'Men in Black' films, and a couple of conspiracy/action films I forget the titles of involving sinister 'men in suits', who were sometimes aliens in disguise or whatnot.

With the operatives, I wanted to add another string to Wolfram & Hart's bow: we know from AtS canon that they have commando teams, but I wanted a more... -personal- sort of enemy, one or two people who could be formidable foes and a serious challenge for Faith and the T-890, not to mention a very real threat to Faith's life, without needing much (if any) backup.

Yup, the SGC will be getting involved later in the series.

Walsh and the NID: well, we'll have to wait and see. Who knows: they may turn out to have something in common with Mr Jones and Mr Smith, and aren't big movie fans. ;)

I'm really glad you like the mix so well - thank you! :)

Terminator comparisons: hmm, good point. I left out other key Terminator models during this chapter as Faith wouldn't have a way to know about them; by that point she would have seen the T-800 and T-1000 in the first two films, and there was a passing reference to the T-600 in 'The Terminator' (the rubber-skinned model) - however, I have considered how the T-890 compares to the other models.

The T-890 and the T-850: that's a tricky one, really. I think, on the whole, they're probably equal, at least as far as combat capabilities are concerned.

As for the T-888, I feel it's safe to say the T-890 is a superior machine by a slender margin; I deliberately chose to use '890 Series' as an indication that the T-890 had some similarities in purpose to a T-888 (i.e. looking like a more 'normal' human being, using coltan steel in the combat chassis and so on) but was a just little bit more advanced.

One of the T-890's main advantages is that his programming enables him to learn to mimic (and even experience) human behaviour more quickly. This is something that a T-888, T-850, T-801 or T-800 Terminator can do if their CPUs are set in 'write' mode (and assuming that their contact with humans is more intimate than gunning them down on sight); but the T-890 learns quicker, he has a steeper learning curve than the earlier 800 Series range Terminator designs.

The other big advantage the T-890 has is his Model 105 skin sheath, and the speed at which it self-repairs. It's not helpful in combat, but for the purposes of maintaining a low profile in a human society, it should prove very handy.

As for the TOK 700 Series range... that's a tricky one. I don't remember it ever being clearly established how Cameron matched up against a T-888 on TSCC (which could just mean my memory's at fault).

Given that Cameron is significantly smaller than the other Terminators she encountered and fought in TSCC, my theory is that she's had the theory 'fight smarter, not harder' incorporated into her design and is designed more for long-term infiltration of human communities than for high-intensity combat - she sacrifices raw strength in trade for a more compact combat chassis (thus making her look less suspicious to the Resistance, as they'd be used to the idea of 'Terminators are always big body-builder types') but makes up for it with improved combat programming*. Whenever Cameron fought T-888s in unarmed combat, she seemed to use a variety of martial arts manoeuvres, while the T-888s didn't generally reciprocate - they tended to respond with brute force tactics.

*This could be something the Resistance added after they reprogrammed her; after all, Skynet built Cameron to impersonate a Resistance soldier, infiltrate the Resistance, and kill John Conner, not to fight Resistance Terminators.

I came up with this theory in large part because of the designation given to Cameron's design: in particular, the 'TOK' prefix. I have no idea if there's a backronym to the prefix, but for there to be such a radical divergence in the designation, I developed my own pet theory that the TOKs are a variant of Terminator designed for a different purpose; the average Terminator was designed principally for combat purposes and fitted with some infiltration capabilities, while the TOKs were designed the other way around, their main focus being on infiltration and with combat coming second place, as most of the time they'd be assigned to terminate a single -specific- target (like John Conner) instead of wiping out the inhabitants of a whole base or shelter.

A Slayer and her Terminator: this really is how I got the idea for this series - what if Faith found out she was a Slayer from a Terminator who'd just saved her life and told her his mission in life was to protect her? That's got to boost her self-confidence a tad... ;)

Ummm... I think I'll leave things there for now, and I hope I haven't rambled too much. Hope that's answered your question (if only in part), and thank you for the review.

El
Review By [aerie] • Date [9 Nov 10] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from Gideon
Review:
Fantastic story. Chapter one was good, but chapter two was much better :) Tony was just the perfect person to bring in and identify the parallels to the Terminator movie. I wonder if Gibbs will put that in his report?
Agents Smith and Jones are great too, very creepy and already well on the way to Sunnydale. Then you got the NID involved as well and the Initiative taking an interest in the Slayers. That does not bode well for the future. Fortunately Xander can kick Adam's butt without really trying and I hope Kendra's body will not provide any help for Walsh - the Slayer spirit has moved on right? Poor Kendra. And poor Giles. Sorry to hear about the chainsaw!
Comments from author:
Thank you very much. :)

Well, I felt that Tony's nerdy tendencies deserved some spotlight time. Hmm, good point about Gibbs' report - not sure about that.

The operatives: thank you, that's -exactly- the sort of impression I wanted to create with them.

Yep, I anticipate having a lot of fun with the NID and the Initiative.

I know, what I did with Kendra's body is a bit nasty, but... well, I wanted to showcase the lengths that the NID and the Initiative (or at least, my take on them) were willing to go, and this seemed like something they could get away with.

Giles: well, in canon, Angelus did seem quite impressed with chainsaws, and monologued a bit about how they didn't have them 'in his day'.

Thanks for the review,

El
Review By [Gideon] • Date [8 Nov 10] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from Moontrap
Review:
Wow.
This story has now surpassed my favorite Terminator Xander fiction. Adding NCIS, pure genius! Denozo with his recognizing movie quotes, and Abby with her video! I wanted to review this story last night, but I wasn't on my own computer.

Anyway, the description of the T-890 is perfect. Not invincible, but better then the t-800 model. I can't wait to see what you do with him now that he is out of read only mode.

Also, the NID and Initiative was a nice touch as well.

Once again, thank you for letting us read your work and I can't wait to read more of it.

Sincerely

John
Comments from author:
Thank you very much, John, and I'm glad you enjoyed this update. :)

NCIS: one of the situations I've always been curious about is what things were like before the show started, back when Tony was still the official 'probie' and it was just him and Gibbs in the field. As for Abby... well, she turned out to be more fun to write than I anticipated, and I had pretty high hopes to begin with.

One of the things I knew I'd have to resolve sooner or later in this series was some sort of comparison between various Terminators and Slayers, so I thought this seemed an opportune time to fit that in. And the NID and Initiative... well, what can I say? They're a fun if sinister bunch to write about.

You're more than welcome, John, and I'm sure I'll have the next chapter ready fairly soon.

Thank you for the review,

El
Review By [Moontrap] • Date [7 Nov 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from AbscondingCascade
Review:
Molto bene, this looks very promising. I look forward to chapter 3
Comments from author:
Thank you kindly, and Chapter 3 is coming soon-ish.
Review By [AbscondingCascade] • Date [7 Nov 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from JediKnight
Review:
Very interesting job on the story so far, I hope you'll add more soon.
Comments from author:
Thank you kindly, and I'm currently working on Chapter 3 of the Collected Data Files. Chapter 4 is mostly complete, Chapters Five, Six and Seven are all in the works too, and I've already written rough drafts of scenes for the third and fourth 'fics of the series. So, with any luck, Chapter 3 will be up fairly soon.
Review By [JediKnight] • Date [7 Nov 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from CPTSkip
Review:
Wonderful followup to your first chapter. What an adrenaline rush! But is your plot getting complicated or what? Lol! So far Faith is being pretty reactive. I can't wait to see her start kicking butts just like her personal Terminator. But of course she doesn't get to pop bullets out of her back like popping popcorn kernels. Lol!
Comments from author:
Thank you for saying so, and I'm glad you're enjoying the series.

Yep, it's getting complicated, but I think I've done enough planning to avoid tripping up.

Faith kicks some serious arse in the next chapter - she doesn't fight any Terminators (the T-890 is still the only Terminator in the universe during C3) but she does take on quite a few enemies of different shapes and sizes. Although, being decidedly more fragile than her Terminator, she has to be more careful to avoid getting shot or squashed than he does. ;)

Thank you again for the review,

El
Review By [CPTSkip] • Date [7 Nov 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from LFW
Review:
Excellent. I really like the crossovers.
Walsh is living up to her evil scientist role and taking Riley along too.
Too bad for them if they mess with Faith.
Hoping for more. Maybe adding Joyce to the fic?
Thanks
Comments from author:
Thank you very much, and I'm glad you're enjoying my work. :)

Well, Walsh IS great fun to write as a mad scientist... even if she doesn't have a lab assistant called 'Igor'. ;)

Yep, a Slayer is never an easy target, and a Slayer with a Terminator bodyguard is even tougher.

Joyce Summers -will- be appearing later in the series, although I'm still working on exactly when she first puts in an appearance.

You're welcome,

El
Review By [LFW] • Date [6 Nov 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from SCIfilover
Review:
Another great chapter. Like how you make things so different. What i mean by the term 'wank' is an internet term used on forum websites that have vs debates between characters or universes. It is used in reference when people make characters of civ's more powerful than they really are or just give them ridiculous powers or have insane powers they can't possibly have or defeat foes they can't ever defeat just because a person likes that characters or civ. Like for example, their is a fic on this website that states Willow can beat Galactus or Buffy can beat or kill Wolverine. That is bullsh#t and nothing but the authors wanking Buffy and Willow. Those this series cross with Stargate, u know because of the NID?

Anyway as i have already said, a well done fic.
Comments from author:
Thank you kindly.

Terminology: ahhh, I gotcha now. Sorry, I'm not particularly well-versed in the slang and terms online, and I've never visited a forum website. Hmm, yes, that does seem a tad unrealistic, Willow vs Galactus and Buffy vs Wolverine... I suppose if Buffy were EXTREMELY clever and sneaky, and was able to slit Wolvie's throat with a blade dipped in an anti-coagulent to stop the wound clotting then he might bleed to death... but that's the only method I can think of that she could use that would work, and given that Buffy's not generally a fan of killing humans I doubt she'd go for it.

Yep, there will be more appearances by characters and themes of the Stargate universe later in the series.
Review By [SCIfilover] • Date [6 Nov 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter One – Fallout" from drae
Review:
Great fun reading this and can not wait for the next chapter.
Comments from author:
I'm glad you're enjoying the series, and the next chapter is in the works right now. It's proving to be a tricky one (I've shelved three different versions of it so far) but it's coming along quite well, now. Should be ready fairly soon-ish.

Thanks for the review,

El
Review By [drae] • Date [6 Nov 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from eriktheviking
Review:
A well written opening full of intrigue and wanna be Machiavellians.
Comments from author:
Thank you very much - that's pretty much the impression I was hoping to make. :)
Review By [eriktheviking] • Date [6 Nov 10] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Chapter Two – In Uncharted Territory" from djhardim
Review:
Good chapter

"The car was sleek, black and chic, and it hurtled down the motorway fast enough to make State Trooper Arnold Strong’s unmarked car rock violently on its suspension."

Nice tie-in. Arnold Strong was the name Arnie used in "Hercules in New York".

I'm surprised the Council didn't arrange for the retrieval of Kendra's remains. I wouldn't want to be Maggie.
Comments from author:
Thank you kindly. :)

Yep, I tend to sneak tie-ins in whenever I can - there -will- be more!

Well, at the point in time when Finn proposes his plan to 'acquire' Kendra's body, the Council is still trying to get even one piece of information about the events in Sunnydale surrounding the Acathla incident.

I know what you mean - I wouldn't want to be Maggie either. ;)
Review By [djhardim] • Date [6 Nov 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One – Fallout" from Moontrap
Review:
Hello Again.
Just finished the first part and can't help but wonder what this gateway Ethan opened leads to. Could it be the Terminator Universe, or is it something worse. All I know is Xander as Faith's Terminator protect is such a neat idea. Thank you for letting us read your work, and I can't wait to read more of it.

Sincerely

John
Comments from author:
Hello,

Well, for now (and in public) I'll just say that the meaning of Ethan's final words will be revealed in the fourth part of the 'No Fate' series, 'No Fate: Transition'. ;)

I'm glad you're enjoying the series and its main plot arcs, and I hope I can continue to entertain you with it.

Many thanks,

El
Review By [Moontrap] • Date [29 Oct 10] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Chapter One – Fallout" from AbscondingCascade
Review:
Interesting, I eagerly await more.
Comments from author:
Thank you kindly, and I hope the newly-posted Chapter 2 is to your liking. :)
Review By [AbscondingCascade] • Date [28 Oct 10] • Rating [10 out of 10]
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