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Review of chapter "Hunted" from Eureka
Nice to see you back.
Why did you back Lanore backwards so much?
Comments from author:
Hi Eureka, thanks.

And I'm not sure what that sentence means...back her backwards where?
Review By [Eureka] • Date [12 Sep 12] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Hunted" from lunalurker
I'm very glad to see the return of this story! The time jump was jarring but understandable, but I am getting a very sinking feeling on the course of this story, in the way it seems like no one is going to have any kind of happy ending at all. And poor Lenore seems to have misplaced quite a bit of competence along the way. A powerful, experienced vampire witch of her age being so helpless and easily surprised and defeated by a human hunter... it kind of grates, compared to how she seemed and what she accomplished in earlier chapters. The universe really seems to want to slowly grind her down and take away everything from her piece by piece.
Yes, I love Tara and feel for the poor woman. It always frustrates me when the least deserving get the most abuse, even in dramatic fiction. It's a thing of mine. Ahem. Rant off.
Thanks muchly for writing and hope further installments come a bit more often! :)
Comments from author:

Sorry that updates are extremely rare. Hopefully this longer chapter will help :)

The time jump was a bit awkward. Lenore's certainly been depressed and it's hurt her - she's merely existing at the moment. Her game is certainly thrown off. Of course, no matter how powerful she is, she is still a vampire and Dead Man's Blood is her kryptonite.

But Lenore needs some changes in her life...and they are coming very soon :)

Review By [lunalurker] • Date [10 Sep 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hunted" from Arekanderu
Sweet! I can't believe we are here already! Oh this is brilliant!
Comments from author:
Woo! Thank you for reading!
Review By [Arekanderu] • Date [10 Sep 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hunted" from Dmitri
This is going to be one of those times in life when it's all dark and gorey and finishes up being even worse, right? Either way, thanks for updating - it's been a while since this story was updated and I missed it. Keep on writing the good work, then!
Comments from author:
:) Thanks for reading and review, friend! Appreciate it. Life is really crazy and I've barely been to this site lately but found myself writing today, so yay!
Review By [Dmitri] • Date [9 Sep 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hunted" from AllenPitt
Welcome back! Almost up to the present. And poor Lenore still hasn't realized how much she's changed, that Willow might have a hard time adjusting to how she is now. Not the vampire thing, but 200+ years old, very different. W. has this view of Tara as an almost angelic figure of goodness, I don't think she could tolerate how she is now.
If she showed up during Willow's rampage, it'd just set Willow off even harder, probably. But I could see meeting her in England during W's recovery, sure.
The smart way to do it would be to first go and visit Angel in LA, and have him accompany her to visit Willow. Act to introduce them & vouch for L. Something like that.
Comments from author:
Wanted to say thanks for the review! I know I am terrible at responding - I always think "Oh, I'll respond when I update next"...and then life happens and I never update. Whoops!

But thank you for reading :)

You're completely correct about Lenore not realizing things. I am very excited to explore what that meeting will look like....

And, hee, you're kinda correct about visiting Angel, because she does so in the new chapter :)

Review By [AllenPitt] • Date [9 Sep 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hunted" from MarcusSLazarus
Personally, I have no problem with you skipping over the intervening years if it means we get to the big climax of this story (I might regret that we didn't have Lenore run into Azazel while he's preparing his 'special children'- as well as other minor moments such as making sure that she's still born in this world-, but since she probably couldn't do anything to Azazel and may have wanted to limit the risk of changing her past, that's a minor detail).

So... with this new timeline you're using to bring the shows together, does that mean that the First's attack will occur during the Breaking of the Seals, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Comments from author:
Thanks Marcus!

Glad you are cool with skipping over those years :) I am following Time Lord rules and didn't want Lenore messing up her own timeline, so wanted to stay away from those things.

The timeline is a bit different than what you're thinking - but I included it in the author notes!
Review By [MarcusSLazarus] • Date [9 Sep 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Hunted" from SnakeFox
Yay! New chapter! This fic is awesome, totally haven't given up on it! Although a 90 year leap sounds like so much... I was kinda looking forward to the approach to the modern day. Things like, in the 80s, would she check to make sure she'd been born? In the 90s, would she visit her mother before she died? Stuff like that. Or earlier, like tying off the Angel part (unless I forgot how that resolved).

Still, awesome writing! So glad you're back with more of this.
Comments from author:

Eeek, I know, it was a big jump. Originally I thought it would be cool, history-loving self that I am, to explore those decades, but ultimately there was nothing for Lenore to really do or explore (story-wise), especially when this fic has drastically gotten longer than I ever dreamed. I yearned to have her interact with the Winchesters and move towards the ending that I wrote from the very beginning. We're not incredibly close to that yet...but we are getting closer.

Thank you for reading. I hope you enjoy the update!
Review By [SnakeFox] • Date [9 Sep 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Huehuecóyotl & the Aztecs" from Dmitri
Thanks for the update and, well, you have to give Loki points for trying. Nice save.

...Well, almost nice, since Lenore didn't buy it. Oh well, there's still plenty of years left before Willow's concieved and all. Maybe Loki'll succeed next time or something. I got a feeling that this isn't the last time Lenore met her most familiar trickster. (Of course, there's always Odin, who's something of a trickster himself.) Maybe next time.
Comments from author:
Maybe next time indeed :)

In the upcoming chapter you'll see that Lenore has been rather independent (as in, no Loki) for the next 90ish years. I think perhaps Loki has his work cut out for him, because Lenore is certainly tired of his b.s. Of course, we will see him again, because Loki *is* Loki and their fates, in a way, are tied.

Thanks for reading!
Review By [Dmitri] • Date [23 Mar 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "Huehuecóyotl & the Aztecs" from AllenPitt
Should Tara maybe interact with her descendants just a bit more? There needs to be a tradition of being descended from a demon, or when she's born in the 20th, she won't' be constantly told about how evil she is. Also makes me wonder what happened-- her father/brother/cousin didn't seem to know about the supernatural or at least only a very little... maybe the Hunting tradition was from her mother's die of the family?
Meeting Angel again could be fun, I'd imagine as 'the time' grows closer she'd be more and wanting to see Willow just after her 'death'? Except seeing Willow at a young age, might just make her realize that she's changed too much to ever reconnect with her.?
Comments from author:
I considered this, and it was my original intention. However, I think hunter families keep a good account of history (well, the lore of it, as I am sure the facts slowly erode as the years pass) and think that is where it came from.
The hunting tradition...that will be explained, in a way, in an upcoming chapter.
I do, at this time, plan on using Angel again :)

...And you bring up a very, very, very good point...

Thank you for reading AllenPitt :)
Review By [AllenPitt] • Date [23 Mar 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The Song Remains the Same" from MarcusSLazarus

My experience of ‘Supernatural’ is comparatively limited, but even with Lenore’s one appearance she was obviously a fascinating character, and the method you used to make her and Tara the same person was brilliant in its simplicity, to say nothing of subsequent events being very well-described.

From the beginning, you create a very interesting picture of Lenore’s human life, neatly avoiding the easy path of making her just an old-fashioned Tara to make her a more confident person even with the standards of the time, and subsequent developments as her forced marriage led to her becoming a vampire was definitely interesting.

Even if a part of me is slightly ambiguous about the coincidence factor of her knowing Crowley in his human life, her meeting with Anya was definitely effective, to say nothing of her intriguing deals with Loki and Castiel’s appearance to assist her (Even if it’s hard to remember that he probably has a different appearance at times), to say nothing of the possibilities presented by your idea about how the vampires of the two series can ‘co-exist’.

Her subsequent ‘life’ as a vampire was very well-explored, Lenore’s initially good intentions clashing with her natural instincts and the dangerous position she’s trapped in- particularly given her connection to Aurelius and her first encounter with the Master-, to say nothing of her increasingly paradoxical existence, as her presence potentially causes many of the events that she will witness or learn about in the future.

Her decision to try and ‘reform’ other vampires might have been impulsive, but her approach worked very well, and her self-control in dealing with the likes of Angelus and Drusilla due to her future knowledge is definitely effective, torn between what she wants to do for those she cares about and what she has to do for the sake of the future (Her moment of weakness when trying to save her family aside, because it’s fairly understandable given her lack of direct contact with Angel and her not-so-close relationship with Spike).

Interesting touch with her meeting with the Immortal, to say nothing of your theory about his true identity (Definitely one of the more original, in my view; the only better one was a story I read where he was one of a race, as all other identities have been crossovers), and her subsequent breakdown after Angelus’s attack was very well-written, neatly exploring both her ‘fall from grace’ and the encounter that inspired her to go through detox once again.

Admittedly, the Angel fan in me would like to see more of Angel interacting with Lenore before he actually meets up with Buffy, but in general things seem be going well; my only real question was how Lenore is going to ensure that Anya doesn’t ‘recognise’ Tara when the time comes, and, as you pointed out, she’ll probably just assume that Tara is Lenore’s descendant given the appearance differences (Although it still might be worth including a scene where Lenore does something about that potential paradox, unless she ‘remembers’ Anya mentioning the possibility that she knew a relative of Tara’s the first time round).

This latest revelation with Odin’s true nature was an interesting twist, and I definitely have to wonder what’s going to happen if/when Azazel learns what’s become of his ancestor, to say nothing of Odin’s latest actions...

Just out of curiosity, is Lenore ever going to visit Tara after she’s born to offer her younger self some little ‘tips’ (Leave things in a convenient location to encourage the past her to make certain decisions, make sure her family takes a while to find her in Sunnydale, things like that), or is she just going to stay away from Sunnydale until Tara’s death?

In any case, keep up the good work!
Comments from author:
Ahhhh Marcus, you always leave the best reviews – literally the type of reviews that always push me to write more :) Thank you.

Yes, Lenore was fascinating. In the show she is the first creature to show the Winchesters that there’s more than black & white in the hunting world – a vamp who doesn’t drink human blood is definitely a shade of gray. Plus, Tara is an underused character and the possibilities with the both of them were far too tempting to ignore ;)

In my professional life I’m in social work/education so I’m all about nature v. nurture and wanted to explore one soul living through different experiences, and the changes on her psyche. Lenore’s development in a different environment and family was fun to explore. Since Lenore in spn canon had such a confident attitude, I wanted to establish early on that Lenore is not Tara.

…*shrugs and grins* Yeah, there are a lot of coincidences. And lemme tell you, that was me holding back! Haha. A life spanning almost 400 years is just full of too many possibilities and I had to explore some relationships with other characters ;D Crowley is *very* important to later developments so his inclusion was very necessary, as was Anya’s to bridge the two life experiences – ha, and because Anya is fun!

The Immortal was a fun addition. From Spike & Angel’s perspective he was such a dirty man-whore (with Dru & Darla) that I found him immediately to be a character of interest. He seemed like Lenore’s perfect gateway drug to a relationship with a man.

As for your remarks about her fall from grace, thank you. I really enjoyed those darker chapters. For some reason writing villains is always fun. As they said in Batman – you live long enough, you’ll become the villain. I found it fitting that Lenore got a taste of that.

Oh, and guess what Angel fan??!! There will be more Angel! I haven’t had a chance to write new chapters yet, but he is definitely in the story outline ;D

As for Anya…she is observant, but also rather self-serving. I believe she would write it off as an ancestor – after all, in 1,000 years she must have seen some crazy things. I don’t think she’ll bring it up, but that is something I occasionally reassess.

Odin, Odin, Odin, tsk tsk ;) Yes, things will tie in together later on a bit more so. However, I’m hesitant to say how because, well, spoiler!, and because I’m already planning a sequel to this story that I think will be featuring Odin more so…

Lenore *will* be visiting Sunnydale before Tara’s death….and that is all I am saying on that! ;)

Thank you for your lovely review!
Review By [MarcusSLazarus] • Date [20 Mar 12] • Rating [9 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The Song Remains the Same" from dinamo
Can't say I'm sad to see the possible end to that relationship, I do love Lenore with Kali, even though I know it wont end with those two together I can't help but dream. The thought of Lenore with a man longterm doesn't really appeal to me.

So excited to see this wonderful story back though. Can't wait for more however or whenever it comes I'll be greatful. Can't wait to see Lenore in the world now its becoming more modern. Even though she knows of the modern world it'll be nice to see her in roaring twenties and such. I'm excited to see what you have in store, good luck with the rest.
Comments from author:
I figured you would be pleased with that relationship ending ;) Hopefully you'll be happy at the future chapter *yet to be posted* where Kali reappears! :)

Thank you so much for your review! I'm glad you're still enjoying it!
Review By [dinamo] • Date [16 Mar 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The Song Remains the Same" from ganainm
Still enjoying it! Thanks for writing!
Comments from author:
Awesome! Good to know :D
Review By [ganainm] • Date [14 Mar 12] • Not Rated
Review of chapter "The Song Remains the Same" from (Recent Donor)christytrekkie
Ahh, crap he's gone and messed up again. he never learns does he. Played like a fiddle by Odin once again. Can't wait for more.
Comments from author:
Loki = not the brightest archangel/pagan god...

Thanks for reviewing!
Review By [(Recent Donor)christytrekkie] • Date [9 Mar 12] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "Not Quite a God" from (Recent Donor)christytrekkie
Great chap, Glad your back to it. I've missed this great fic.
Comments from author:
yay, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Review By [(Recent Donor)christytrekkie] • Date [9 Mar 12] • Rating [10 out of 10]
Review of chapter "The Song Remains the Same" from Dmitri
And so, Lenore and Loki split up once again. That is so distressing. Odin is somewhat evil - not surprising, since in the Norse myths, both Odin and Loki were rather tricky, with occasional flashes of malevolence. The Nephilim - yes, I remember their mention in the canon Genesis and Odin is one of them? Well, why not. Great chapter overall, and where will Lenore go (and do) next, I wonder?
Comments from author:
Thank you for reading Dmitri!
Review By [Dmitri] • Date [9 Mar 12] • Rating [8 out of 10]
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